gbhnews,
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what do you all think about the state of news visibility here on mastodon?

https://mastodon.social/@MediaOnMastodon@toot.io/112316173190323025

sbourne,
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@gbhnews There may not be as much, but it's higher quality than what I saw ... before.

knizer,
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@gbhnews 's fediverse news visibility is massively improved by your consistently showing up. As a 'social space', we're still figuring out how things should work.

Your efforts to lead are noticed and appreciated.

gbhnews,
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@knizer I like it here 😁

ifnotnowboston,
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@gbhnews It's a weak spot. RSS bots mean we're well provided for with headline news feeds, but we need more journalists here. Really appreciate your work!

kevin,
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@gbhnews Visibility is good - it's there if you want it. I'm not really a fan of news bot posts and would prefer it to be operated by a human.

gbhnews,
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@kevin Same. Decided early on to make this a "hand done" account. Didn't see the point in just syndicating an RSS feed over here.

Call this the social media manager's self-care account lol 😁

PandaChronicle,
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@gbhnews
I think it’s getting better all the time. I don’t mind links that send me elsewhere as long as there is enough in the snippet to give me a good idea of what the article is about. Being directed to paywalled articles w/o a gift link annoys me.
I hate click bait and being directed to sites that have so many pop-up ads you can’t read the article.

gbhnews,
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@PandaChronicle OMG I hate that too. I use a lot of reader software (in part because of a visual impairment I have). We are public media, so we don't have 85 popups etc.

PandaChronicle,
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@gbhnews
GBH has always been one of my faves here and on radio because CAR TALK!!! god, I miss those guys.

gbhnews,
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@PandaChronicle that's not us 😁 that's that college radio station down the block (WBUR). But you're right, the Tappet Brothers were a national treasure.

PandaChronicle,
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@gbhnews
oops! I like you guys anyway! 🤣🙃Click and Clack were a religion here. 😢

gbhnews,
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@PandaChronicle It's okay! I do want to point out that we won the softball championship and had to physically go over there and reclaim the trophy 😂. (GBH and WBUR have an annual softball game).

JosephSmith3130,

@gbhnews it could be improved. Would like to see more Climate news.

mpjgregoire,
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@JosephSmith3130
Do you follow @Snoro ? That account has lots of climate news.

@gbhnews

bretcarmichael,
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@gbhnews Good and improving as more journalists and orgs join. Mastodon has no algorithm, so the viral engagement found on Twitter is unlikely. Separately, Threads is deprioritizing news to measurable effect. While it has an algorithmic timeline, it won’t deliver the same news engagement as Twitter. Ultimately, Mastodon may be the best place for news, since any number of networks can federate, Twitter is declining, and Threads doesn’t want news. Peak clicks are probably in the past though.

gbhnews,
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@bretcarmichael The Threads thing is real. We're there because of the raw numbers, but I'm reluctant to invest a lot of time or effort there.

bretcarmichael,
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@gbhnews Based on what Meta has said and your own data, I think you’re right not to invest lots of effort on Threads. Meta’s financials have shown that the absence of news hasn’t harmed revenue. Its presence has created a lot of political and regulatory pressure, domestic and abroad. Also, countries have compelled Facebook to pay for content posted by publishers. Separating any moral arguments about Threads’ obligation to carry news, it’s in Meta’s business interests to lessen its visibility.

gbhnews,
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@bretcarmichael (we also consider social to be a "top of funnel" phenomenon and don't consider clicks to be the only/primary way to measure what we are doing. Most social platforms want to keep the users on that platform, not to leave to an external website).

bretcarmichael,
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@gbhnews That’s a great point. Twitter has been sometimes open and sometimes vague about deemphasizing posts with links off its site.

wifsten,
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@gbhnews getting better all the time, gradually

gbhnews,
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@wifsten It is gradual, and in a way, I think that's behind the relatively slow uptick in news orgs. over here. It really is a perception/real numbers thing.

If I had to justify being here strictly on the numbers, I probably wouldn't be here. I don't, so...here I am 😁

jsit,
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@gbhnews It’s so valuable to the fediverse that you continue to show up every day as an example to others.

gbhnews,
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@jsit well except when I have a sick day lol

nlowell,
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@gbhnews

A few great people doing Good Works.

Mostly too many people linking to stuff we need to go elsewhere to actually see/read/participate with.

Not just news.

JMO

gbhnews,
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@nlowell Yeah I hear that. I assume "linking elsewhere" to a story on a news website is ok. You mean linking to other social platforms?

nlowell,
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@gbhnews

Yeah. Other social platforms including their own blogs. Too many posts are basically ads for something somewhere else.

It's rare to get conversations going here that stay here - which used to be a hallmark of social media spaces.

News website, I'd expect to have to look elsewhere for more than 500 characters.

I also expect it to dead end with a paywall or your-email-or-piss-off link so I seldom click them. If the headline grabs me, I'll dig deeper.

But news has a problem.

gbhnews,
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@nlowell Almost all (centralized, algorithmic) social platforms have become "on platform" experiences because the companies that own them want users to stay on the platform and not depart for another website.

Expectations on non-algorithmic platforms like this one...users are here and want to stay here.

Combined, it makes it hard to justify investing. (Not impossible but hard).

I hear you about the paywall thing; Medium links irk me. We are public media and so no paywall/no registration.

wifsten,
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