Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

okay, yes, this could be awesome.
it would be pretty great to not have multi-hour hold times, and then having to explain to someone who barely speaks english how the basics of icmp or tcp work in order to speak to the next tier of support, or to help book complex international flights

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

i know, i know, "ai bad", but think back to the last time you spent 3 hours on hold to talk to a company, to then have them 'transfer you', and have it shitcan the call on you, so you get to start over.

Jplonie,
@Jplonie@aus.social avatar

@Viss you are mistaking the role of AI here. They will simply have the AI transfer the call from level 1 AI to level 2 AI (different costing LLM ) but through the wonders of API's they will automate the call dropping.

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@Jplonie and here i was thinking they'd just eliminate tiers 1 and 2 support outright, leaving only tier 3, "the ones who know what they're doing", because tier1 is just call registration which the AI can do, and tier2 is "walk through this dialog tree and fill out a form for tier3 so they dont have to"

and the folks that used to work tier1 and tier2 get to train the ai instead of talking to customers.

everybody wins

Jplonie,
@Jplonie@aus.social avatar

@Viss "everybody wins" ah I see the misunderstanding there is no interest in everyone winning. Only the company winning is the driver.

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@Jplonie ah, yeah, my mistake

Jplonie,
@Jplonie@aus.social avatar

@Viss easy to make when you believe in the best of people.

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@Jplonie or that "people will do their jobs", which is usually a bit of a gamble

ai6yr,

@Viss LOL so much fun to be had with airplane flights. https://futurism.com/the-byte/car-dealership-ai

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@ai6yr that was a hilarious one to watch - same dealership we were all in on a month or so ago?

ai6yr,

@Viss Yeah, that was the one we were playing with, same article. Just mentioning, if you see an airline booking actual flights off an AI, fun will ensue.

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@ai6yr undoubtedly

ai6yr,

@Viss Started my career in software QA. Software QA / hacking / same thing. LOL.

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@ai6yr yeah, more or less! tech support -> sysadmin -> architect -> security here. and now im screwing around with day trading in the early hours.

cobweb,
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@Viss as a former call center employee I welcome this. We definitely got treated like machines there.

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@cobweb my first jobs were doing tech support for isps, then software companies. call centers need to go.

aburka,
@aburka@hachyderm.io avatar

@Viss struggling to understand how it's better to talk to a chatbot that will just make up a plausible-sounding wrong answer

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@aburka have you ever talked to a tech support person who stonewalled you, didnt understand enough to do their jobs, or didnt speak enough english to be useful?

aburka,
@aburka@hachyderm.io avatar

@Viss of course but replacing them with a bot seems like a lateral move at best, since at least a human could in theory be provided with training/resources that would help

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@aburka im supposing that any org who invests sufficiently enough in their own chatbot will train it on their own materials, not just outsource it all to openai or another llm, but run their own, with their own training set

aburka,
@aburka@hachyderm.io avatar

@Viss bad assumption, as it's already happened and they did not do that https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2024/02/18/air-canada-airline-chatbot-ruling/

Viss,
@Viss@mastodon.social avatar

@aburka except right now we're talking about the future, not the past

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