angiebaby,
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The Democratic Party is right-wing.

zdl,
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@angiebaby This is something literally anybody outside of the USA has known for … generations.

There is, for all practical purposes, no "left" in US politics. There's flavours of right. The absolute radical leftmost wing of the Democrats would be mildly left-leaning, as if in a stiff breeze, centrists in any other nation practically.

jhavok,
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@zdl @angiebaby It's terrible how the Democrats absolutely refuse to smash the state, and instead keep making it functional. No wonder you prefer the Republicans, they are smashing away at all the functional parts and eventually you'll get to romantically go to a death camp and be oppressed.

zdl,
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@jhavok @angiebaby I'm sorry, but did a railway spike enter your head and damage important parts of your brain, causing you to respond with obvious non sequiturs and bizarre utterances to someone who ISN'T EVEN A FUCKING AMERICAN YOU BERK!

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    @angiebaby @jhavok I'm giving him one chance to walk his idiocy back before he gets the blockhammer.

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  • jhavok,
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    @angiebaby @zdl Oh, how could I forget, Trump has promised to end the genocide. I'm so forgetful sometimes.

    zdl,
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    @jhavok @angiebaby And, predictably, he doubles down on his idiocy. Serious "I'm a WHITE DUDE" energy vibes from this fuckwit.

    > I don't know anything, but I can look it up.

    That's your problem, Jimmy. You don't know anything. You just look things up in dribs and drabs and can't see what's between your little snippets, so you say fucking idiotic things and make you and yours look like utter shitheads.

    zdl,
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    @angiebaby I'm seriously getting to the point of thinking I need to block mastodon.social in its entirety. I get more fascist bootlickers posts from that domain than I'd get from JoeBobsRifleRangeAndRealGoodFreezePeachFediverseInstance.social just by the sheer numbers.

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    @angiebaby @jhavok I'm not sure you could get a more perfect picture of what let fascism take root at any point that it has taken root. That is the ultimate in "comfortable middle class doesn't want to rock the boat" faces.

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    @angiebaby The kind for whom literal life-and-death problems are merely interesting intellectual exercises. Has no pasty skin in the game.

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    @angiebaby That is a situation I've noticed a lot in the American (and indeed WESTERN) left.

    There's a distinct hierarchy.

    White guys are at the top. White women are next in line. Then comes everybody else with a tendency for darker skins to fall lower in the hierarchy.

    This is why Chinese groups that should be natural allies of the western left (like Chinese LGBQT+ groups) are silently disengaging from their American counterparts: they're tired of being talked down to and ignored.

    zdl,
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    @angiebaby Having a white, male American "leftist" talk down to two women, at least one of whom is non-white, and one of whom is not an American is so on-point for the American "left" it's sickening.

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    @angiebaby I'm thankfully out of reach of Trump. His billionaire overlords won't let him start a nuclear war, so all he'll try is ineffective trade war. (The USA doesn't have a lot of leverage in trade wars anymore since its entire consumer class has been obliterated by billionaire greed.)

    zdl,
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    @angiebaby I just noticed something going through the fuckwit's feed. Not only is his public feed 100% repostings (not a single original post of his own that I've seen thus far, and I've gone pretty far down!)

    ...

    Wait for it.

    ...

    YOU are one of the people he's quoted. And suddenly, when you push back against his White Guy Pronouncement, there's "nothing interesting to read" in your feed.

    What a manbaby.

    ethanjstark,
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    @angiebaby

    First, agreed.
    Exhibit A: fueling

    Exhibit B: following the GOP talking points + scare tactics regarding "illegals"
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-reference-illegal-upsets-democratic-state-of-the-union-rcna142448

    Exhibit C: https://hachyderm.io/@ethanjstark/112134403811494437

    Then, I went down a rabbit hole, looking for some "L/R" visualizations of worldwide political parties, and found this giant dataset https://manifesto-project.wzb.eu and this flawed argument arguing the opposite https://www.reddit.com/r/DepthHub/comments/hk3fpk/ufarrenj_uses_the_comparative_manifestos_project/

    barney,
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    @ethanjstark @angiebaby

    I'm not clear on why you folks want Trump to be president again.

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    @angiebaby @ethanjstark

    I'm just saying, this is the Republican Party you're working for: "There are very few innocent Palestinian citizens... we should kill them all... like Hiroshima and Nagasaki... gotta finish the problem."

    Obviously you're free to do that. But two million Gazans, and thousands of American protesters who care about them, really wish you wouldn't.

    So do the 10 million Latinos who Trump promises to send to concentration camps in Texas.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-israel-finish-problem-gaza-1234981038/

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  • barney,
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    @thepoliticalcat

    No, the nuclear bomb comment came from Rep. Walberg (R-MI). Trump only endorsed bombing Gaza into oblivion.

    As president, Trump abruptly stopped all US aid to Palestine, not in response to anything, just because he hates them. He plans to ban Muslim immigration (again), and the GOP is trying to deport all Palestinians now in the US. Kushner wants to forcibly remove all Gazans from Gaza.

    The pro-fascist leftists in this thread are hurting the people they claim to care about.

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