ramsey,
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What’s up with 19.2 fl oz beer cans? I mean, I like the size, but it’s not an even amount of anything. It equates to 567.81 ml.

Yes, I know American units are wonky, but sometimes they’re weird because they actually equal to an even metric number. For example, they sell 16.9 fl oz water bottles because that’s a half liter.

So, what gives on the 19.2 fl oz / 567.81 ml measurement for these tall cans?

asgrim,
@asgrim@phpc.social avatar

@ramsey that's a pint in UK 👍 🍺

derickr,
@derickr@phpc.social avatar

@ramsey British pint is 568ml.

heiglandreas,
@heiglandreas@phpc.social avatar

@derickr @ramsey Thanks! And thanks to the wikipedia article I now also know why electric kettles usually have 1,7 liters in volume: It's actually 3 (imperial) pints... 🙈

derickr,
@derickr@phpc.social avatar

@heiglandreas @ramsey That I didn't know either!

heiglandreas,
@heiglandreas@phpc.social avatar

@derickr @ramsey I also now know that 1 imperial gallon contains 8 imperial pints....

8....

Why 8????

I mean, the old pound sterling system was based on 6 or 12 (and they only seem to have copied the karolingian system)...

OTOH: 1 Sovereign = 4 Crown = 8 Half Crown = 10 Florin = 20 Shilling = 60 Groat = 240 Penny = 960 Farthing = 1 Pound Sterling....

8 imp. pints = 1 imp. gallon seems almost too easy...

🙈

afilina,
@afilina@phpc.social avatar

@heiglandreas @derickr @ramsey Could this be as simple as the size of a container traditionally used to pour pints?

heiglandreas,
@heiglandreas@phpc.social avatar

@afilina It for sure is. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon) but still: Why 8? Why not 7? or 9? Usually there's a reason behind these connections that somehow got lost over time.

Perhaps the size of a jug still carryable for a 10 year old kid when serving in a pub?

/cc @derickr @ramsey

ghorwood,
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@heiglandreas @afilina @derickr @ramsey it’s eight because a mile is eight furlongs long and a furlong is the distance an ox can pull a plow without resting. see? the imperial system makes perfect sense!

heiglandreas,
@heiglandreas@phpc.social avatar

@ghorwood But how does the eighth part of a mile connect to the pint? Unless an ox drinks a pint at each rest...

🤔

Or the person leading the ox? 😇
/cc @afilina @derickr @ramsey

ramsey,
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@ghorwood @heiglandreas @afilina @derickr I thought a furlong was the size of @wez’s back yard!

derickr,
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afilina,
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@derickr @ghorwood @heiglandreas @ramsey That was an enjoyable read, thank you.

ramsey,
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

@heiglandreas @afilina @derickr 8 US customary pints also equals 1 US gallon, but it’s apparently not the same volume as an imperial gallon. 🤯

rob,
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@ramsey @heiglandreas @afilina @derickr This is why you can’t compare mpg for a US car with the mpg for a UK car.

anthony,
@anthony@bitbang.social avatar

@rob @ramsey @heiglandreas @afilina @derickr because it would be too much to ask that miles were different in the same way as pints and gallons? 😁

heiglandreas,
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pieceofthepie,
@pieceofthepie@n8e.dev avatar

@ramsey 568ml is a Pint.

nCrazed,
@nCrazed@fd00.space avatar

@pieceofthepie @ramsey so blame the Brits on this one? 😅

ramsey,
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

@nCrazed @pieceofthepie I mean, I’m okay with an extra 3.2 ounces. 😁

m1ke,
@m1ke@phpc.social avatar

@ramsey sounds like a British pint to me. I've had in my head that they're 568ml

bobmagicii, (edited )
@bobmagicii@phpc.social avatar

@ramsey the last time i saw something like that was to get around a law. oklahoma's alcohol laws used to be ultra problematic. and there is a reason four loko changed their cans from 14% to 13.9%

and i still suspect that here, given the hype around it to put us at ease.

doktrock,
@doktrock@toad.social avatar

@ramsey
"This craft answer to the single-serve is an imperial pint, 20 British ounces—that’s where the 0.2 comes from. It’s the same diameter as a 16-ounce can, which comes in handy for canning-line flexibility.
[...] Volek, “19.2-ounce cans are the largest size that will take a standard can end. They maximize liquid volume without the need to make major modifications to the package lines.” "
https://allaboutbeer.com/19-2-ounce-beers-are-on-the-rise-the-skinny-on-the-taller-cans/

ramsey,
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

@doktrock I seem to recall knowing this at some point, and I’ve forgotten it.

“An imperial fluid ounce is defined in British law as 28.4130625 millilitres, a US customary fluid ounce is 29.57353 mL, and a US food labelling fluid ounce is 30 mL.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ounce#Fluid_ounce

Crell,
@Crell@phpc.social avatar

@ramsey @doktrock This is why we can't have nice things.

https://xkcd.com/927/

tsturm,
@tsturm@famichiki.jp avatar

@ramsey It probably is an even divider to a football field.

ramsey,
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

@tsturm You mean “American football,” I presume?

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