LukaszOlejnik,
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Exaggerating the effects of foreign influence campaigns serves only the foreign operatives.

Downplaying the threat of foreign disinformation campaigns risks making it easier for bad actors to take advantage of an unprepared public.
Overstating the power of propaganda risks amplifying not only the original falsehood, but also an even more corrosive and polarizing narrative—that politicians are somehow remote-controlled, and that citizens don’t have agency.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/russian-federation/dont-hype-disinformation-threat

ErikJonker,
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@LukaszOlejnik …the problem is that we in Europe possibly face more then just a disinformation threat, other hybrid warfare could also be possible, already some examples in the last year (the blowing up of a munition storage for example)

LukaszOlejnik,
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@ErikJonker there’s no such thing as hybrid warfare. Hybrid methods are below the warfare threshold.

ErikJonker,
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@LukaszOlejnik We differ in opinion then, also the semantics are not the most relevant, the actual situation is that Russian actions on the European continent already cost lives, create damage.
Also for my country Russian warfare in eastern Europe caused the shooting down of flight , 196 from the Netherlands were killed, but that was just ordinary warfare...

LukaszOlejnik,
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@ErikJonker EU/NATO states aren't in armed conflict with Russia, there's no space to differ here - these are objective facts.

ErikJonker,
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@LukaszOlejnik Well it's not that binary in international affairs and geopolitics, even if they are legally not at war, every expert will confirm

LukaszOlejnik,
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@ErikJonker in intl law yes, it is precisely binary.

ErikJonker,
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@LukaszOlejnik I studied it , international affairs/relations is about more then law, numerous examples of "wars" were countries were not legally at war

LukaszOlejnik,
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@ErikJonker So a better word is: conflict, competition. War is devoid of meaning.

ErikJonker,
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@LukaszOlejnik ...in a legal sense it sure has meaning, but ongoing conflict and competition also are significant, also if i think about "secret wars" from the past in central america, around vietnam, sadly a lot of examples, the same is happening today in europe in my opinion, NATO/EU countries are not formally at war with Russia but there is an ongoing conflict both overt and covert.

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