protonprivacy, 18 days ago

@jonah

Thank you for the suggestion, we'll look into making this warning easier to dismiss.

You can also use an email address that you're not using for anything else as a recovery if your threat model requires it.

jonah, 18 days ago

@protonprivacy that’d be awesome 😄

dieTasse, 19 days ago

@jonah
why is it a dark pattern? The truth is vast majority of people will benefit from it and their threat model probably allows it. The visual clue is beneficial in that case. You can ignore it.I understand that some people like to have everything "perfect" and orange dot will make them uneasy, but just take it as part of interface.
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jonah, 18 days ago

@dieTasse and when an actual security alert shows up in my sidebar I’ll just be trained to ignore it?

It’s unacceptable when anti-privacy companies nag you to enable telemetry and whatever constantly, and it’s equally unacceptable for pro-privacy companies like Proton to nag you constantly when you decide not to add plaintext metadata to your account. Proton isn’t exempt from basic standards by virtue of being Proton. And it’s a simple fix, because they can just add an ignore button to the notification.

blakeashleyjr, 19 days ago

@jonah @protonprivacy not revealing your identity to the government even under threat of warrant is not a standard threat model, in my opinion. If it is part of your threat model, it's your responsibility not to be stupid.

jonah, 18 days ago

@blakeashleyjr I would not assume the recent case is the only reason people don’t want to provide a recovery email.

I trust Proton with my security, and I don’t want to additionally trust a third party email provider with my Proton account security as well, so having a recovery email would be pointless. I should be able to avoid the recovery options entirely without being nagged to add one in multiple locations throughout the Proton interface. I think Proton will improve this though. This has nothing to do with courts and governments 🤷‍♂️

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ThePrivacyWayfinder, 19 days ago

I don't have any recovery methods entered and I just ignore the warning. A visual orange dot doesn't bother me, but everyone's different and I understand it may be bothersome. For me, I'm hardly in my settings panel anyways 😀

jonah, 19 days ago

@ThePrivacyWayfinder well it also shows up in the inbox, I guess unless you hide the sidebar (which I use for the calendar)