kravietz, (edited )
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Soviet actor Georgi Burkov in his memoirs first released in 1998 (found by Maxim Mirovich):

The Bolsheviks need the atomic bomb to stay in power, i.e. against their own people. It won’t be long before they start blackmailing the whole world, so that the whole world begs us, the people, not to make a revolution and to tolerate these ghouls and support them

Very much to the point both then and now.

SeverianX,
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@kravietz

Oh yeah, specially after they drop it onto two Japanese cities...

¡Evil Soviets!

@pthenq1

kravietz,
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@SeverianX

The Totskoye nuclear exercise was a military exercise undertaken by the Soviet Army to explore defensive and offensive warfare during nuclear war. The exercise, under the code name “Snowball” (Russian: Снежок, romanized: Snezhok), involved an aerial detonation of a 40 kt[1] RDS-4 nuclear bomb. The stated goal of the operation was military training for breaking through heavily fortified defensive lines of a military opponent using nuclear weapons.[2][3] An army of 45,000 soldiers marched through the area around the hypocenter soon after the nuclear blast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totskoye_nuclear_exercise

From 1949 to 1989, residents of the former Soviet oblast of Semipalatinsk lived under the shadow of a mushroom cloud. Over that time, at least 456 nuclear devices – both atmospheric and underground – were detonated at the 18,000-square-kilometer site known as Semipalatinsk-21.

https://www.rferl.org/a/soviet_nuclear_testing_semipalatinsk_20th_anniversary/24311518.html

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SeverianX,
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@kravietz

Yeah, sure. They also drop one in Hiroshima and other in Nagasaki.

Seriously, it is dumb try to demonize other nuclear powers, when the greatests nuclear crimes in history were commited by the US.

@pthenq1

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@SeverianX

US dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki to instantly end WW2 which otherwise could take years, costing the Allies thousands of their own soldiers. Japan could have surrendered before the bombs but they chose not to and preferred to fanatically fight to the last soldier. Soviets put the lives of thousands of their own citizens at risk… essentially out of curiosity.

But this is not the point of what Burkov said: what he describes is the utterly degenerate nature of the Soviet system which was oppressing primarily its own citizens and blackmailing Western powers to be allowed to continue the oppression. Burkov knew what he was talking about, because he was a Soviet citizen himself. And the similarities to today’s Russia are numerous.

@pthenq1

SeverianX,
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@kravietz

Yeah, that's the story. The truth is that they wanted to scare the Russians, that already controlled most of Europe. And a minion people died to that.

With that past, imagining nuclear crimes in other countries is a bit bizarre

@pthenq1

kravietz,
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@SeverianX

As a reminder, USSR joined US and UK in the war on Japan in February 1945. In July 1945 the Allies (including USSR) called Japan to surrender, which they duly ignored. US dropped nuclear weapons only in August, which was followed by Japan’s capitulation in September.

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SeverianX,
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@kravietz

Haha, OK, but they didn't drop the bombs!

@pthenq1

kravietz,
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@SeverianX

Of course, because Rosenbergs haven’t stolen them yet. Other than that Soviets never had any reservations against killing large numbers of people, in 1930’s they’ve just starved a million of people to death and then jailed and executed another million.

SeverianX,
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@kravietz

Yeah sure. Did you pay for that?

kravietz,
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@SeverianX

I’m sure you didn’t know about this one, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazino_tragedy

SeverianX,
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@kravietz

Oh! Wikipedia! I learnt abuot Illumminatti there...

kravietz,
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@SeverianX

If you’re unironically reading Illuminati articles then I guess even book encyclopaedia won’t help you 🤷

SeverianX,
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@kravietz

You didn't understand the irony 🤷‍♂️

I meant that wikipedia is not a serious source, your link lies between articles about illuminnatti and Soviet antropophagia...

kravietz,
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@SeverianX

The article is pretty well sourced by historians who worked on declassified KGB documents.

m0xee,

@kravietz
So true! And it was always the case: "We need nuclear weapons to protect our sovereignty!"— and by sovereignty they always understand the ability to keep torturing own people indefinitely.

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