vlrny, (edited )
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Exploratory question:

Are there fedi/mastodon options for creating private lil discussion enclaves a la chat groups/rooms? Perhaps using groups or lists (features I haven't really explored the functionality of)?

I am pondering gathering some folks for side discussion, out of the public eye, for deeper collective conversations.

vlrny,
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So my conclusion from this exploration is there is nothing fedi right now that is easy for me and other mastodon folks to set up as a lil private chatting enclave, but it looks like more group features are in the works for mastodon.

https://mstdn.social/@feditips/110662606965563194

So, I am gonna do my thing via Signal for now, and we can shift and expand to a mastodon group when that feature is up and running.

Thanks to everyone for dropping your knowledge, ideas, and hacks. Really helpful! 💛

40eridani,
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nanode,

@vlrny

I don't think Mastodon has those abilities, and I've not seen their roadmap.

sorry, does have invite only 'Groups' you can chat in.

I'm not sure if 'Groups' are joinable across servers or whether all the people in the group need to be on the same server, say, calckey.social

Also there are, 'Channels' which are special interest groups that anyone on that server can join.

(I think Channels may be federating in the future.)

vlrny,
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@nanode just to clarify, is channels another software site like and ?

(am just trying to absorb and sort a lot of new information - and most of my understanding of fedi is via mastodon)

nanode,

@vlrny

No, 'Channels' is one of the unique Firefish features.

There is a longer explanation of the Firefish features here:

https://mastodon.social/@atomicpoet/110330138893896925

I'm not sure if reading this will muddy the waters or not.

😆

Feel free to ask anything, I'll try and help.

vlrny,
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@nanode ..this is actually a link to a great discussion re how calckey is like the secret love child of WordPress and twitter. It is not however illuminating re firefish and how channels work. Did you mean to send something else?

nanode,

@vlrny

There's not a great deal on the Interwebs that I can find out about Channels.

Chris is pretty much the authoritative voice around this stuff tho:

https://mastodon.social/@atomicpoet/110329806941224542

vlrny,
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@nanode Ok. My brain is getting full, will circle back to this again later (likely tomorrow). Will digest this and anything else incoming in the meantime.

Main question is whether I can gather mastodon peeps in a firefish group/channel without everyone having to join firefish. It seems ya'll are federated in as much as I am talking to you from mastodon now, but it looks like firefish channels themselves don't federate? 🤔

nanode,

@vlrny

Firefish was rebranded last week from Calckey.

I think because the back end was rewritten for something faster.

vlrny,
@vlrny@disabled.social avatar

@nanode

So, calckey and firefish are synonymous?

Channels can only talk to each other if on the same server? ie any participants would have to join firefish on the same server.

I assume firefish is like mastodon in there being multiple servers using that software?

ohmrun,

@vlrny @nanode Some people say hotmail or gmail when they mean email.
If you say calckey (firefish) or mastodon what you mean is ActivityPub which is how they all intercommunicate.

vlrny,
@vlrny@disabled.social avatar

@ohmrun @nanode

Sweet Baby J!
I need an on the

I envision something like field of termite mounds (instances) connected to each other by a bunch of bridges (federation=who is/isn't connected to whom) the bridges themselves being made of activitypub.

But I am lost when trying to understand the individual mounds (mastodon, firefish, even pixelfed etc) - when they are connected, when they aren't, how they are connected...

Might need a 3D map :p

ohmrun,

@vlrny @nanode I don't understand it completely. There's some initial to-and-fro I know to start seeing messages from other instances but I'm fuzzy on the details.

vlrny,
@vlrny@disabled.social avatar

@nanode Well it better not, FISH CAN'T BREATHE IN MUDDY WATER. ;)

Also, thanks. Having an Insider is very helpful. 💛

AudraTran,
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  • vlrny,
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    @AudraTran Ah, channels IN firefish. Gotcha. Glad it's not just me trying to navigate all these terms. Thanks!

    vlrny,
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    Follow up question:

    Who would be interested in an non-public group chat about deeper soul struggle stuff?

    Dark night of the soul/existential crisis sort of stuff. From whatever faith/philosophy/paradigm you come from.

    starry1086,

    @vlrny Also waves

    sapphorest,

    @vlrny waves

    vlrny, (edited )
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    Oooo also, can we call said group:

    ?

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