grindhold, to fediverse
@grindhold@23.social avatar

's compatibility problems with the family of softwares ( ) should be a thing of the past now.

Melpomene, to mastodon
@Melpomene@erisly.social avatar

Thinking about moving instances; feel a bit isolated where I am. Any suggestions? , , ?

msdropbear42,
ada, (edited ) to random
@ada@blahaj.zone avatar

I've been meaning to do a "State of the Shark" post for a while, and go through and explain some of the history and important moments that blahaj.zone has been through. For those of you who have been here for a while, you know it got a bit rough at points, and I want to take the chance to explain some of what happened.

I joined the fediverse in April 2022, around 6 months before the big twitter exodus in November 2022.

I fell in love with what I perceived to be the freedom of instances to create safe spaces for trans folk that had been harassed on twitter (At the time, I didn't have an awareness of how that inclusion doesn't always extend to trans folk that don't have white privilege)

I was talking to a friend @supakaity (well, friend at the time. Now we're partners, together with @internutter) and she said that she was planning on spinning up a fediverse instance. Kaity would supply the technical skills, and I would bring my community building and development experience and be "front of house". We did some brain storming, and came up with several names centered on blåhaj, because we wanted the instance to be focused on trans and gender diverse folk, without being specifically restricted to trans users. And so, in late November 2022, blahaj.zone was born.

Initially, we tried Misskey, mostly because I hated the Mastodon interface and wanted something prettier. But Misskey has very little documentation in english, and not much usage outside of Japan. At the time, there weren't many Misskey forks, with FoundKey and Calckey being the main options.

We had a look at Calckey, and decided to go with it. It had a small but active development team, and several instances already running it. And so we went live with Calckey. Kaity, being Kaity, would listen to some of my frustrations around usability, and started to expand the feature set of Calckey. Many of these fixes got pushed back to Calckey main, but not all of them. Those that were not pushed up to Calckey stayed in use on blahaj.zone though, and eventually we named our little soft fork of Calckey "Hajkey" (pronounced Hi-Key).

Around this time, Calckey was starting to get traction, and we were starting to get users who would join, just to try out some of the features that Kaity was working on. And for a while, all was good.

But for reasons that don't belong in this post, we eventually fell out of step with the Calckey development team and decided to go our own way. When Calckey rebranded as Firefish, we formally parted ways.

But that left us a dilemma. We did not want to move to the Firefish software base, as it was moving in technical directions that we didn't want to go. And we couldn't stay on our version of Calckey/Hajkey, as some of the bugs were show stoppers. So we had to look at alternatives, and decided to rebase Hajkey off of Iceshrimp.

And then Kaity got in to a really bad accident. Concussion, broken jaw, and an injury to her arm that even now, still hasn't been resolved. So blahaj.zone entered limbo. We were partially rebased on ice-shrimp, but without the chance to fully integrate all of the Hajkey features, and with federation bugs and issues. The instance was up and running, but it was wounded, and the task of updating it seemed impossible, especially whilst recovering from a major accident.

And that's how we existed for many months...

Ultimately, we made the decision to rebase again, this time on Sharkey, but even then, the work of implementing all of the Hajkey specific changes was huge, and so, we made the decision to let Hajkey go, and move to vanilla Sharkey.

And here we are now, running Sharkey, and with the instance humming again! I've made Kaity promise to try and not end up creating a huge workload for herself by re-creating the Hajkey features as Hajkey, so our hope is that over time, we will add at least some of them to Sharkey itself. That way, every Sharkey update will not involve a day of code merging from Kaity.

As much as I miss some of our old features, I am so much happier to have blahaj.zone buzzing and alive again!

Thank you to everyone, and here's to a strong future!

​:blahaj_is_fine:​ ​:BlahajSpin:​ ​:Blobhaj_Ani_Hophop:​ ​:Blobhaj_Heart_Trans:​ ​:Blobhaj_Thanks_Wow:​

jake, to fediverse
@jake@posts.jacobhaddon.com avatar

uninstalling my previous instance which was . Thank you for being my home on the for a while. I will miss the cat ears and the silly reactions.

but, with the spam stuff recently, it is time to come down. (after a backup of course...)

Cefr, to fediverse
@Cefr@beige.party avatar

If Firefish is going to come back, Kainoa won't have a hand in it. They quietly handed over the keys to the repo to a maintainer... who has publicly stated they aren't a programmer and are just looking after commits. Not exactly a signal things are starting back up.

https://git.joinfirefish.org/firefish/firefish/-/issues/10847

Unless there is an announcement soon about someone taking up development again, I think it's safe to say Firefish is over as a Fedi platform.

Optimism wants to say that someone will, but at this point even if someone does it'll be playing catch-up to the current state of affairs. It isn't possible for someone to come off of the street and say "I'll do it" and go back to the pace that was happening last summer immediately. (But it's not impossible for me to be wrong and six months from now someone does. I'm just not banking on it happening. Even the Firefish name itself might be too damaged in reputation to even take back up.)

, , and are derivatives who are continuing onward with things. All three of them have disassociated with FF completely so it seems Misskey still has a future with non-Japanese users. (Iceshrimp even spent time on a new non triangular logo to further separate from Firefish.) Server admins who wanted to consider a Firefish instance but shied away from the drama last fall may want to follow those projects instead.

If your fedi server is still on Firefish, don't be surprised if an announcement "were taking signups on our new Plombus server, in X months Fleeb will be decommissioned" comes down sometime soon. Internet services without recent updates are asking for trouble from exploits and vulnerabilities. Also, without an active FF developer to fix standing issues (or a skilled DB admin on your instance's behalf to whittle the database and schema to fit the new system as well as possible) a cut-over migration where users don't lift a finger isn't in the cards like the Calckey to Firefish migration last September. It likely will be up to you to decide to either move your account Mastodon style (no post migration, just your follower lists and a link back to the prior server) or to just start fresh.

darnell, to threads
@darnell@one.darnell.one avatar

So is slowly killing off , & Shop is spamming users to the point they are reopening ‽ I can not wait to introduce people to ! 🕺🏾

👉🏾 Instagram Threads triples downloads in December, reaching the top 10; X falls to No. 36 https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/30/instagram-threads-triples-downloads-in-december-reaching-the-top-10-x-falls-to-no-36/

notroot,

@badtux @darnell I stopped using #Mastodon about 6 months after I started using it, and switched to Misskey-based shortform blogging like #Calckey, and now #Sharkey or #Catodon.

It really is a better user experience.

My instance sharkey.world is cutting edge.

zwovierzwo, to mastodon German

Hat hier schon mal die Kommunikation zwischen und getestet?
Ich habe hier von Gotosocial Nutzern die Info erhalten, das er/sie mein Profil bzw. mein Profilbild nicht angezeigt bekommt.
Wenn er dann aber mit oder einen Kontakt hat - dann wäre das gar kein Problem.
Da ich das jetzt nicht nachvollziehen kann in Ermangelung einer Gotosocial Instanz

Ist hier etwas bekannt?

notroot, to fediverse

This isn't my first migration.

I started out, like many, on , during the great Twitter migration. Not that I migrated from Twitter. No... I never had a Twitter account. Rather, I hoped that Mastodon could obtain the Network Effect, and help fundamentally alter the shape of social media for the foreseeable future.

So I made my own solo Masto instance and ran it for a good six months. It was cool. But then there was a glittery thing -- -- that caught my eye. So I joined that. Pretty soon the maintainer of Calckey (young BTW) dropped out, but forks forked. I waited. Then was the shit. But no...

Then, today, the admin of my former instance calckey.world made a new sharkey.world instance public, and I joined. is the new shit.

Because that's how I roll. On the Cutting Edge, baby.

Yeah......

BlueTurtleAI, to mastodon
@BlueTurtleAI@hachyderm.io avatar

Why are limited to 4 options 🤔? I just wanted to start a new poll and was pretty frustrated by this limitation.

redegelde,
@redegelde@mastodon.education avatar
ruud, to random

I just setup a #Sharkey instance. Needs to be configured further, but it works.

(Sharkey is a Misskey fork, just like #FireFish / #Calckey etc.)

https://sharkey.world

lucy_idk, to fediverse German
@lucy_idk@mastodon.world avatar

liebe fediversefreundis,

könnt ihr mich mal erleuchten was eigentlich dieses ganze zeug mit #misskey #meisskey #foundkey
#calckey #firefish #sharkey #iceshrimp soll?

was sind da die unterschiede und warum gibts da so viele forks? gibts da gossip?

#fediverse

be_excellent_to_each_other, (edited ) to main in Updated - programming.dev defederation on hold
be_excellent_to_each_other avatar

What is the reason for federation in your opinion? Why aren't we all on Lemmy.world or kbin.social?

Edit:

I’m giving feedback and hopefully they will reconsider.

It doesn't seem like it would fit the description of the instance if they did. Unless they are going to force programming.dev to comply with their rules, which again, defeats the purpose of federation.

Are you a friend of Blåhaj? blahaj.zone is open for registrations for queer folk and their allies. We're a small instance, running on #Calckey (a fork of #Misskey). If you're trans, gender diverse, or just really like plushy sharks, come and join us! We are accepting new members, but remember Blåhaj is a friend and ally to all LGBTQ+ folk!

po3mah, to random
@po3mah@mastodon.social avatar

Is there a painless way to upgrade server (13.1.4.1) to something with more perspective (that will not die in the next 6 months)? What do you suggest? ? ? ?

mima, to mastodon
po3mah, to random
@po3mah@mastodon.social avatar

I'm still running because I'm too lazy to update to any of later *fishes or other sea animals.
Will simply wait until one of the branches stabilizes.

noondlyt, to random
@noondlyt@mastodon.social avatar

I see you out there changing instances in the new year. Isn't it great?? Such freedom 🐘🙂

HistoPol,
@HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

@noondlyt

Thanks.
Working on a reader or a convo migration?
#Calckey, now #Firefish used to(?) provide at least a thread migration about a year ago.

By nxt Xmas, I will probably approaching 70k posts.🙈

Amelia, to random

From a #sharkey Dev to People On Fedi (pls boost):
While i understand that there's lots of drama around firefish, please do actual research. Sharkey is not and has NEVER been a firefish/#calckey fork, it didn't spring of from firefish. it started off as just an indipendent Misskey soft-fork(updates with misskey), there is no relation at all to firefish, it is incredibly damaging to call it a firefish fork, as the sharkey team actually spends lots of time just implementing features that people wish for (this include some features firefish has), while also spending time on making sure they work decently unlike (firefish some times)

also it's just as damaging to call Iceshrimp an offspring of the whole firefish drama now, Iceshrimp while an actual fork of firefish existed way before the entire recent firefish drama the only recent ofspring of firefish is #catodon and then again catodon is not trying to be firefish, catodon is its own thing it wants to sit inbetween mastodon and *key as a more userfriendly thing with alot of the "fun" misskey stuff removed, and #iceshrimp is doing a full rewrite of firefish in c#, none of these projects are even remotly similar to the firefish way of doing things, some of them aren't even in any relation to #firefish

tldr: stop calling things firefish sucessor, esspecialy don't call sharkey a firefish ofspring it was never in any way related to firefish

ArtBear, (edited ) to fediverse

So, with there being so many, should we collectively refer to all the different forks of etc as

?😂

A partial list here
https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-apps/issues/47

stefano, to fediverse
@stefano@bsd.cafe avatar

"This document is dedicated to all citizens of planet Earth. You deserve freedom of communication; we hope we have contributed in some part, however small, towards that goal and right."

All I can say is: thank you.

https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/

memo, to fediverse German

Es kommt leider wohl genauso, wie ich es befürchtet habe. Die Firefish Basteltruppe scheint mit ihren eigenen Modifikationen und Entwicklungen überfordert zu sein.

Deren eigener ist seit rund zwei Wochen offline, und Firefish-Social, nun ja, wer dort ein Konto hat, kann sicherlich näheres berichten.

Seit über drei Monaten erscheint kein neuer und der zuletzt veröffentlichte Release-Kandidat scheint mir auch nur eine umbenannte zu sein. Zudem hat die Datenbank bei mir die vierfache Größe meiner Misskey-Datenbank 😲

Ich habe mich deshalb entschieden, einen weiteren Misskey-Fork zu installieren — https://joinsharkey.org/ oder https://git.joinsharkey.org/Sharkey/Sharkey

Du findest mich dort unter @memo

Die aktuelle Version sieht in vielen Bereichen noch ganz stark wie aus, aber mir scheint dieser Fork viele der Neuerungen wie die »Reactions«, die für mich mit ein Grund war zu testen, werden wohl Stück für Stück auch dort integriert, die wesentlich besseren Voraussetzungen für eine wirklich funktionierende Instanz zu haben.

Ich werde denjenigen, denen ich bereits auf meiner Firefish-Instanz folge, auch hier erneut folgen.

Ich bin gespannt auf die weiteren Entwicklungen 😀

grischa,

@memo Woran machst Du Deine Meinung fest, dass das "sicherlich eine gute Entscheidung war"?

ist eine lange veraltete und nicht mehr supportete Version von Firefish mit erheblichen Sicherheitsproblemen.

bietet eine Migration nur von und (Docker) an und keine von Calckey.

Wo siehst Du also den Vorteil darin, weiterhin auf Calckey zu bleiben? 🤔
@BrauchC @memo @Carlos

kubikpixel, (edited ) to fediverse German
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

Ehrlich gesagt, ich selber habe die Option @firefish im #Fediverse noch nicht ausprobiert aber der @mho hat darüber berichtet und der @crossgolf_rebel eine ausführliche Anleitung dafür geschrieben. Für mich ein sehr guter #Input und erweitert mein #Wissen über das #Mastodon weiter hinaus.

📰 https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/Mehr-als-nur-Twitter-Kopie-Calckey-im-Fediverse-denkt-Social-Media-weiter-9205667.html
✏️ https://gnulinux.ch/fediverse-serie-calckey-firefish-kommunikation-im-fediverse-auf-einem-neuen-level%C2%A0

kubikpixel, (edited )
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

⬆️ …so wie es aussieht, ist ( @admin ) wie auch ( @firefish ), ( @Sharkey ) und scheinen ein Klon von ( @admin ) zu sein.

Ob dem nun so ist wie ich es wahrnehme, muss ich mich mal damit auseinandersetzen. Die Unterschiede im Detail interessieren mich und sind wahrscheinlich auch Argumente für diese Anwendungen. Weshalb ich darauf komme und Details siehe oben.

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