jimnobu,

The IPO is going to be a disaster on its own. Then when r/wallstreetbets starts goofin’ around with it, it’s over. Corporate social media is not the future. Hopefully people move here steadily. I created a community, something I never did on reddit.

Shhalahr,

One of the primary reasons Reddit cited for its API rule changes was LLMs profiting off its data for free.

Its data? Seems to me that most of that “data” was actually generated by users. Which Reddit, in turn, profited off for free.

Lanky_Pomegranate530,
@Lanky_Pomegranate530@midwest.social avatar

Reddit needs to die

Crum,
@Crum@lemmy.world avatar

Moderators simultaneously make reddit better and worse… mostly worse, though.

Koffiato,

A lot worse. Was tired of the [removed] trope whenever mods did something incredibly stupid.

possiblylinux127,

“Could hurt its business”

Apparently we didn’t do much. I’m just happy to be on Lemmy so I don’t have to care.

nexussapphire,

Lol yeah, tired of people coming over here, lurking (not posting or commenting), and complaining there isn’t much content to consume.

LifeOfChance,

Huh? Those are two vastly different groups. You can’t not comment or post AND complain about it. Those who complain are those who comment and/or post. Those who lurk either don’t interact at all or upvote/downvote only.

nexussapphire,

They lurk and then they complain if that makes sense. They only seem to do it if asked what they think about Lemmy though so at least it’s not everywhere. Usually people who were banned from Reddit and linger around her till it runs up or people trying it for the first time and disappointed no one is talking about movies or something so they can’t just get involved in a vibrant conversation.

I encourage them to get involved too, post what ever they like, to leave a comment nomater how insignificant it might seem. I get no response what so ever from them. I even make the point that reddit was this small at one point but it was the community that grew it.

nexussapphire,

What sucks is that on most social media platforms about 10% of users make the content that draws people in. The rest are typically lurking and contributing little to platform growth but are still important to platform monetization. Not important to Lemmy but still.

cheeseburger,
@cheeseburger@lemmy.ca avatar

Reverse psychology Uno card attempt to get any remaining mod or community they don’t control to out themselves as a risk and be ousted, imo.

Philharmonic3,

Fuck yeah, fuck its business. Fuck reddit for going IPO and Fuck spez for being an insufferable gaping asshole

ixtr,

I'm sensing anger. I'm dissatisfied with reddit too but are you under an illusion that a people don't necessarily want to do things for you for free?

sovietknuckles, (edited )
@sovietknuckles@hexbear.net avatar

Besides having their community migrate to Lemmy, the thing moderators can do that impacts reddit the most is making their sub NSFW, because

  1. Reddit gets no ad revenue from NSFW subs, and
  2. NSFW subs will be excluded from their new $60m/year AI training deal.
AceFuzzLord,

I imagine if mods changed subs to NSFW for actually non-NSFW subs that those mods will be replaced with bootlickers with boots so far up their ass they can taste them.

Mydayyy,

This actually happened. Mods werde forced to turn back to SFW or they would have been removed

rooster_butt,

And some mods stuck to their guns and were removed and replaced by bootlickers.

ixtr,

speaking of NSFW and Lemmy, how's the porn on Lemmy? I haven't seen any but I haven't really been looking because I'm on my work PC.

merthyr1831,

Its a good thing the Moderators famously fumbled their one attempt at protesting for anything significant to reddit

wahming,

You say it like mods are anything other than a bunch of random diverse people with little to no communications between those on different subs

merthyr1831,

It was pretty organised, all things considered. The problem was that the organised approach was to do a single, one off, 2-day protest with no end-game. The consensus was simply far too naiive in assuming that the reddit admins wouldn’t just sit it out knowing that they’d only have to oust a few stragglers at most.

possiblylinux127,

They should’ve just stopped moderating in mass. If Reddit wants to replace them that’s fine, they’ll just need to replace all of them at once.

itsnotits,

stopped moderating en* masse*

Vanix,

I like that your useless account doesn’t even have the apostrophe in its name. It’s odd to me you spend time doing this. It’s no tits shouldn’t waste time correcting it’s and its!

SomeGuy69,

They did and Reddit installed puppets in the bigger subs.

possiblylinux127,

They didn’t as I was there

itsnotits,

It’s* a good thing

bbuez,

I actually want to know why people comment pedantic grammar corrections, are you trying to be helpful or does it give some sense of superiority?

fidodo,

Why would anyone do free work for a corporation to profit off of?

onion,

Especially when working for projects like Wikipedia and OpenStreetMap is way more rewarding

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

Why would anyone invest in a corporation that doesn’t pay it’s workers who were also given the keys to parts of the business and can lock down sections of the business at any given moment.

Why would anyone invest in something so volatile.

It’s only value will come when they finally make the announcement and launch the IPO … after that it will be worthless.

EnderMB,

I used to be a mod at /r/soccer.

I used it when it was a wild-west shitshow full of the same old posts. I used it for a decade, and when they needed mods in my timezone I thought I’d use the time I was gifted thanks to COVID and redundancy to help out.

Most mods have very little power, and a lot of scrutiny if there are more than a few mods. It’s just a queue you occasionally look at to see what has been reported, and you action it based on the rules.

NikkiDimes,

Yes, you have described performing work. Many people do the same, but with emails, and get paid.

EnderMB,

For 10ish mins a day? Sign me up to that job!

Out of interest, how do you see it as any different to being a mod on Lemmy?

fidodo,

On Reddit they’re profiting off your work. On lemmy, we’re all poor together!

EnderMB,

Haha last time I checked, Reddit had never turned a profit.

While I do get your point, I think most mods see a connection to a community or subject, rather than the company that owns the platform. In my view, it’s no worse than when people maintained DMOZ, or people that contribute to Wikipedia.

CleoTheWizard,
@CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

Not OC but they’re just pointing out that one is free work for a corporation that just paid two people nearly $200 million off your back. Whereas Lemmy moderation is currently just volunteer work in the interest of community. Not saying people can’t profit off of community facilitation, but in that case their moderators are staff and should be treated as such.

ReakDuck,

The difference I see is that Lemmy mods have all the tools they want as they can code or request tools. Help the community for free and support something they love.

Meanwhile on Reddit, you cant have shit, get to see how greedy the ceo is and see your community crumble as more and more bots are coming afaik. The fact that they want to profit off of you makes you feel more like thats not right.

EnderMB,

Perhaps right now, but the Reddit API had all the tools I needed to run scripts to stop spammers using their own scripts.

Just because you don’t like Reddit, it doesn’t mean you should devalue how people use their time.

owenfromcanada,
@owenfromcanada@lemmy.world avatar

They’re paid in ego boosts. Unfortunately, it means that the types of mods that have hung on are largely the type that like to be paid in ego boosts.

Neve8028,

I moderated a mid sized sub for a while. Around 100k users. It was a hobby I was into and I figured may as well moderate because I was spending a lot of time on the sub anyways. It also let me put together some community events which were always fun. Once it stopped being fun and started feeling like a job, I left. I never really thought about it as doing free work for reddit and more helping community building for a hobby I had. People do it for all sorts of reasons. The “power mods” are really the issue.

fidodo,

I understand back when Reddit was small and before they killed all their good will, but I don’t see why anyone would continue to be a mod now that Reddit has made it clear that they want to monetize their work.

Neve8028,

Because there are still some great communities on Reddit that don’t exist in the same way elsewhere.

BurningRiver,

“Losing free labor will hurt our business”

-signed, the plantation owner who made $193,000,000 last year

GammaGames,

Good, it’s the only thing they can do.

golden_zealot,
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Nothing can really kill reddit, but as far as content goes I expect it will follow the same path facebook did where the only people who eventually really interact on it will be conspiracy theorists and moms.

Maoo,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

Bankruptcy can kill Reddit. Give the C-suite some credit, they can still drive that sucker straight into the ground.

hashferret,

Rip their fucking eyes out

JCreazy,

I modded a few subreddits but left it all behind

CorrodedCranium,
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

I just remembered the other day I’m listed as the only moderator of a subreddit with a couple thousand users and haven’t done anything for it in about a year.

Corgana,
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

Me too. I had really hoped more mods would move their communities to a Lemmy instance and promote it on Reddit but that’s largely not the case.

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