It’s [stainless steel] also stiff, which makes it potentially more lethal to anybody unlucky enough to be struck by a vehicle built with the stuff.
Of course they picked a more deadly option.
The documentation says: “To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.). Do not wait until Cybertruck is due for a complete wash. If necessary use denatured alcohol to remove tar spots and stubborn grease stains, then immediately wash the area with water and a mild, non-detergent soap to remove the alcohol.”
Loooool. That’s pathetic. A truck you have to baby or it stains and discolors.
Maybe. I read my manual cover to cover and nowhere did it say you had to immediately wash off bird shit. And I haven’t and it hasn’t stained or rusted. This car is pathetic.
There was a time when yes it did. Back when the manufacturers switched to more environmentally safe paints in the late 90s/early 00s.
But they got their ducks in a row quickly, these days it’s fine. Similar to the many solder ball cracking issues caused by lead free solder when it first appeared.
You get you can treat damaged paint, right? Like have you ever buffed and polished a vehicle? Yes paint may get damaged, but there are things you can do to make it look good again. You simply cannot do this on the Cybertruck.
No the whole point of a truck in America is for men who have self confidence issues to feel better about themselves. You think people are hauling shit on the reg in a cyber truck or those other lifted shiny shits people drive around?
Refined oil yes. But crude oil can be because it has impurities. Honestly in unsure about that sentence. They might have conflated all of the substances and effects together to save space. I imagine oils cooked definitely stain unprotected metal though.
Not just more stiff, the sharp angles on the body are also much more likely to cause serious injury to pedestrians and cyclists (there’s a reason modern vehicles have rounded edges). Unfortunately the lack of regulations in North America on safety features vis a vis anyone but the vehicle occupants means these death machines remain street legal.
Elon specifically said that if a CT gets into an accident with another vehicle, the CT “wins”. Which is such a fucking horrifying way to think about automotive safety. Same thing from people who bitch about how “your car gets totaled in even the lowest speed crash nowadays” when doing so is precisely what saves your life. Totalling a car and allowing you to walk away with only minor injuries or none at all, it is the point, but people like him have this idea that it’s more manly to die in easily avoidable ways than it is to observe safety measures that we’ve known about for decades.
Haven’t read the article, but I am going to say it’s a bad alloy combined with salt in the air, salt on the roads combined with galvanic corrosion. I’ll edit my post after I read this…
Edit: It’s the deadly chromium layer not being wrapped in a $5000 clear coat.
That was musks selling point for production, he said by skipping the paint booth they saved X amount of time, materials and money by going with plain untreated stainless
To clarify, it was still a very bad idea because of added mass, it just wasn’t necessarily a bad idea for rust since they could have mitigated risk of rust in one of several ways.
The added mass is really bad for battery performance/range, pedestrian safety, safety of other motorists, and total greenhouse gas emissions in production (and added fuel costs for the marginal power increase, of course).
This is such bullshit though. Deloreans were built with uncoated 304 stainless steel (think, same as in food grade stainless stuff), and with all their other issues, rust is not one of them.
If Teslas rust, they chose the wrong steel, the end.
We don’t even know if they’re rusting. All these articles are based off a couple pictures posted in a forum from a guy who doesn’t even know what the actual issue is. These articles are just filling in the blanks with speculation.
The damn maintenance manual tells owners to carefully remove anything remotely corrosive (including, among other things, tree sap). Given Tesla knows the material is subject to rust, I think it’s a bit more than just some confused owners.
Pretty sure that list applies to paint as well, and can be found in most car manuals.
I just searched the most recent manual for my model car, and it said this:
Washing
To help protect your vehicle’s finish from rust and deterioration, wash it thoroughly and frequently at least once amonth with lukewarm or cold water. If you use your vehicle for off-road driving, you should wash it after each off-road trip. Pay special attention to the removal of any accumulation of salt, dirt, mud, and other foreign materials. Make sure the drain holes in the lower edges of the doors and rocker panels are kept clear and clean. Insects, tar, tree sap, bird droppings, industrial pollution and similar deposits can damage your vehicle’s finish if not removed immediately.
Please try to keep your criticisms of Musk fair and unbiased. Otherwise, you risk weakening your point.
Yes, but you see the difference is my car is expected to rust because it’s not made of supposedly stainless steel.
So I fully expect to have to protect my car’s finish. That’s why it’s painted. The Cybertruck doesn’t even have a clear coat. One would naturally thus expect that, unlike my regular non-stainless steel car, the Cybertruck wouldn’t in fact rust.
Please try to keep your criticisms of Musk fair and unbiased. Otherwise, you risk weakening your point.
Thank you for your unsolicited advice. I’m sure next time I’ll keep it in mind while having meaningless arguments with anonymous internet strangers.
Oh, I thought this was a social media platform, where people don’t need to be solicited to post their comments. If you don’t want responses, start a blog. If you dont want responses from me, use the block function. If you want to engage in mostly baseless complaining, expect that people might call you out in a semi-anonymous forum.
Them telling drivers to meticulously clean the vehicles doesn’t necessarily mean they’re afraid its going to rust. They’re probably concerned with staining and junk getting embedded into the panels. In the forum post, you can actually see a little bit of staining circling some of the debris on the panels. Furthermore, iron particles can get on the panel and rust themselves even though the actual panel itself isn’t rusting. This is why they make iron decontamination spray for auto detailing.
Stainless steel also stains. “Stainless” does not mean “never stains,” just that it stains less than other steels.
Endless Spotless Stainless Steel is a steel that stains, has fewer spots, and ends a bit later. The logic of English is all but senseless. Which means it has everything except a bit less sense.
I found out way too late that “all but” means exactly the same thing as “almost”. If “all but X” is taken literally, it should mean “you can describe this thing in lots of ways, but it’s definitely not X”.
(I am not a native English speaker but I use English more then my native tongue due to being online so much)
If anyone needs one reason to avoid the stupidtruck, it’s the sheer ugliness of that abomination. I don’t understand how people can worship such a petulant egomaniac enough to adore such a travesty from him.
You can test drive the car before you buy though. I did some months ago, though I didn’t end up buying it.
Granted, you don’t try the exact vehicle that you’ll be buying. You used to be able to return the vehicle within 7 days, but it looks like they canceled that policy.
What I haven’t seen mentioned is that the structure of the vehicle depends on the integrity of the exterior, if Tesla’s own marketing was true. So, if it rusts easily, isn’t it more likely to be structurally unstable during impact?
FDA approved stainless steel (316L) doesn’t actually rust. Otherwise you’d have sprinkles of rust in your food and drink from production, and you’d have to buy new utensils and a kitchen sink because they’ve rusted.
There are different grades of stainless steel with their varying properties.
316L absolutely can corrode. Add a bit of acid in the water and it will start showing rust soon enough. Typically you can find chemical compatibility charts for various metal grades to see what does and doesn’t work with a metal.
316L is perfectly capable of rusting especially under pitting corrosion. I don’t know who told you it is physically incapable. It is just unlikely under normal food conditions.
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