Huffman has said, "We are not in the business of giving that [Reddit's content] away for free." That stance makes sense. But it also ignores the reality that all of Reddit's content has been given to it for free by its millions of users. Further, it leaves aside the fact that the content has been orchestrated by its thousands of volunteer moderators.
To be fair, much of the modern news cycle comes from Reddit. When I worked as a tech journalist years ago, we had half a dozen bots watching relevant subs and alerting us to breaking news. We'd clean it up, fact-check, call sources for comment, and do all the "journalistic" stuff you'd expect, just like with any other story, but Reddit was absolutely part of our workflow. You've got to look for news wherever the news is happening, be that a press release, a leak on twitter, or a convo on Reddit, and frequently it happened to be Reddit.
These days you even have tictokers cutting out the middleman and straight-up reading r/AmITheAsshole posts over Minecraft footage for views. Is it any surprise that news sites are commenting on their content firehose being turned off?
Also, that stance doesn't make sense. Stances aren't assessed in terms of sense making in a vacuum. A stance doesn't mean anything without its context and I the context of reddit, it doesn't make sense to keep content behind paywalls.
Personally I've left it for good. Lemmy is so active and diverse I don't miss reddit at all. I'm still sometimes looking at it through Boost, but come July 1st I'll be gone forever
I'm also using Boost until July 1st and then if it stops working, I'm out of there for good. Lemmy is quite good already and I don't want to support Steve and the other dousches over at reddit.
Lemmy is hopefully just the beginning of fediverse growing more and more with new platforms and services.
It’s so funny. I have bounced between Boost and Sync for years. I really love them both. I think I tend to gravitate to boost for more graphical or visual subs, and I like Sync for commenting or reading more text focused content. I have paid for pro lifetime on both. I miss them, and am excited that Sync is trying to make the jump.
Has the Boost dev(Ruben?) Officially said the app is shutting down? Ppl keep saying it, but I haven’t seen an official post or announcement. Reddit keeps saying “we are still working with some devs”…
Moderators are just users of reddit. Reddit keeps trying to drive a wedge between users and mods, but really the problem mods were always the powermods that reddit supported and often installed on major subreddits.
As usual, the problem is class. Mods are middle class, users are working class. These two groups can easily get along just fine. It's the rulers (admin) and upper class (mods) who cause all the problems in reddit society.
Definitely. A lot of Reddit mods, or the “landed gentry”, are mods because they likely made the sun because they had a niche interest they were carving out a forum for.
In the same groups a found a lot of the mods were people who participated in the community a lot. And then the others that participated were the first to get added to the mod list.
Most of the time on most of the subreddits that aren’t defaults and don’t regularly hit the front page the mods are just users who love that particular subject, idea, whatever.
See I think that "landed gentry" bollocks really refers to reddit's installed powermods. Most mods are not landed gentry, they're regular farmers who have cultivated the community.
It used to just be a regular forum for people to post and discuss. It was special because of the upvote/downvote karma system. The user count got money hungry people’s attention, it went corporate and it became a place to take in revenue.
Now people have learned from it, and used it to create their own forums based on the structure of Reddit.
The thing that made Reddit special was it was everything you wanted all in one place, instead of having multiple forums on multiple different websites for multiple different interests, it was all on Reddit.
Now we have the fediverse, it’s multiple different websites, that follow the same principles, and they all work harmoniously with one another.
Just like nature finds a way, genuine humanity finds way too, even on the internet.
I’d hate to see the community I helped build be destroyed. However, I will love watching the folks that made it great join the federation! Here’s to us!
Great article, except super cringe at the end suggesting Beehaw specifically and not saying “Lemmy” or something to indicate it is part of a wider service.
Unless Reddit reverses course … a new site, such as the user-funded Beehaw … will take its place.
Because people keep unintentionally hyping up Beehaw, they do not understand that Beehaw is nothing special and that everyone would be better off unsubscribing from its communities to let it be its own island since it doesn’t like the whole federation concept anyway (at least not since it finished exploiting it to grow to its current user count). I already unsubscribed from all their communities after their dick move.
I was reading these comments on beehaw yesterday defending the defederation from shitjustworks because of T_D sub with like 10 subscribers and I was already getting a little worried thinking what I’ve gotten myself into. Glad to see the view on this on other instances seems a bit more balanced and reasonable. Beehaw seems toxic as hell.
I see that their mass defederation is potentially temporary.
But the point that hairtrigger defederation results in fragmentation, up to the point of insularisation remains valid. Islands naturally tend to become obscure.
I'm here to watch the collapse. And when I see Spez on the side of the street, begging for change because greed cost him his site and his credibility, I'll unzip my pants and top off his alms cup with hot, frothy piss.
There is nothing special about Reddit except its community and the content the community created. Its software is trivial. Unless Reddit reverses course, Reddit will join Digg, MySpace, and LiveJournal in the dustbin of social network history, and a new site, such as the user-funded Beehaw, or an old one, such as Digg, will take its place.
I would actually revise that to "Its software is trivial, and in some respects notably lacking."
They really should be paying, all of these data companies should. No other business gets away with not paying for the materials they use to make their product. You can't build and sell a car without paying for the nuts and bolts.
Data companies like Facebook and Google keep telling us the data we give them has no value, yet they use that data they collect for free and sell for pure profit to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world.
Why not post the whole sub-section:
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