Why are people hyped about RSS regaining relevance?

According to Google Trends, during the past few years, there has been nothing but a few minor bumps that faded away as quickly as they came. I love RSS because i do not have to scroll through dozens of different news sites all day and i would love it to return.

EDIT: Typical case of people only reading the headline. I was asking why people are hyped over something that did NOT happen.

glad_cat,

i would love it to return.

RSS never died though, I have at least 50 web sites that I follow.

clearedtoland,

What do you use as your reader?

mwguy,

Tiny Tiny RSS has been great for me. Popped it on a VPS and it’s been running for years now trouble.

gitstash,

Damn straight. Feedbin for me.

It has gotten less useful over time as content went elsewhere, but also I’ve been lazy about moving Substack feeds over.

deweydecibel,

I think they mean get popular again, see more robust support and integration, etc.

somedaysoon,

What are some feeds you all follow? I’ve always been interested in the concept of RSS feeds but I’m not sure where to start for finding feeds that interest me.

peanutdust,

you can use it to subscribe to youtube, odysee, peertube, podcasts, without an account. i use feedbro to get the youtube rss easy but lately i use freetube.

3laws,

Ars Technica, BBC and Reuters are big enough that you may find a channel of your liking, that was my starting point.

What are your interests?

somedaysoon,

Thanks for replying. Tech, Linux, selfhosting, FOSS, motorcycles, mechanical work, home improvement, tools, shop type things.

3laws,

The OPML I have on my phone is not as complete as the one on my PC, let me get back at you when I can and I’ll share some feeds for tech, Linux and FOSS.

cheese_greater,

What is Reddit if not a glorified collection of RSS feeds with comments?

ominouslemon,

I love RSS, but having comments and a sorting algorithm makes a world of difference

code,

i have lemmy for that. My rss feeds are extremely curated and very specific to want i know i want to read about,

ChrisLicht,

One of my co-workers solely interacts with Reddit through RSS feeds, and has done that for years.

Paradox,
@Paradox@lemdro.id avatar

RSS is quasi-archival, so it can give you a listing of new content sorted chronologically with no other input. Even reddit’s /new feed cannot guarantee this.

tea,

What is Reddit if not a glorified collection of RSS feeds with comments?

I went from Google Reader to Reddit. It scratched very much the same itch. I remember having quite the curated list of RSS feeds subscribed to. Still pissed that Google killed it.

evatronic,

We really just need a Reader replacement. I’m sure there is something out there I don’t know about.

If not, perhaps I’ll make one and become a billionaire on the RSS bandwagon!

PeachMan,

I’ve been using Flym since they killed Reader.

Very_Bad_Janet,

Inoreader perhaps?

chunkmcbeefchest,

inoreader is excellent

Rambler,

Handy News Reader (F-droid).

MrSnowy,

First time trying RSS, giving it a shot. Thanks!

Rambler,

Good luck, it’s kind of feature-rich so if you have any questions, feel free to ask. The dev is quite responsive (on Github) which is good.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

Inoreader has been my go to, or The Old Reader which is closer to Google Readers style.

NotBadAndYou,
GeekFTW,
GeekFTW avatar

Was about to say lol. Right in those last days/weeks of Google Reader, Feedly loudly stepped up and offered to help people import their data over and continue on right in the nick of time. I'd assume the majority of people who had been on Reader, who didn't quit using feeds entirely, probably migrated to Feedly the day Reader shut down.

basskitten,

That’s what I did! Over time I stopped looking at Feedly though. I replaced it with Reddit and Twitter mainly. Now that those sites have become Pure Evil I switched over to Apple News. I already pay for the Plus thing as part of the family bundle so might as well use it. The “Following” tab works like a personally-curated RSS feed list. If you want an algorithmic approach, you can use the “Today” tab.

The one main feature it’s still lacking that I really want is a pure chronological list of everything from my Following sources/topics. I sent them feedback so I’m sure it will show up any time in the next 5-15 years.

kazerniel,

I used Feedly for many years, but recently switched to Newsblur, and I love that it lets me filter out posts by tags or keywords, finally don’t have to use external tools for it.

tea,

Newsblur

Trying this out now. It’s awesome. Might have found a new doomscrolling default…

tea,

Is Feedly still a thing and okay? I remember it being the stopgap between Google Reader and Reddit, however I’m not sure where it lies on the “free version is good enough” vs “completely gimped free version and the real product is the paid one”

lorax,
@lorax@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m using the free version and not missing the paid features!

jared,
jared avatar

I took the same path, probably the first time google broke my heart.

7u5k3n,

It was gpm for me…

PeachMan,

And not the last, I’m sure 😆

1bluepixel,
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  • cheese_greater,

    Its arguably also how content is “curated” which, at some point, is helpful for different uses. Nothing is pure asset or liabillity, it depends on implementation and audience.

    Offlein,

    and the weighing is the entire problem.

    It’s also the fundamental value prop.

    merc,

    If you used Reddit sorted as “new” exclusively, it would essentially be a collection of RSS feeds. But, what most people sort by “popular” or “hot” or “top” or something. Chronological sorting vs. algorithmic sorting is an absolutely key difference for RSS vs. other social feeds.

    dmmeyournudes,

    The comments are why most people go there. It’s the major differentiator from other social media platforms. Holding a conversation on Reddit is much clearer than any other site. If YouTube has comments like reddit it would be a very interesting change to a lot of content that goes on Reddit at the moment.

    expatriado,

    Among other problems, in youtube posters can delete comments, so when someone calls bullshit the poster can just delete, here that power is limited to moderators but you can still check deleted comments. Another thing is that thumbs down isnt visible, another useful information taken away. Comments are not structured in trees, and the list continues…

    cheese_greater,

    I view it just as much through the lense of entertainment as I do an essential check on disinformation both in the framing used by the actual post as well as clearing through bots and other dirty tricks/bullshit in the comments.

    The one thing I will commend Twitter on is its introduction of “Context”. It can be shocking how misleading or disingenuous headlines can be when you give them even an inch sometimes

    clearedtoland,

    My immediate thought about Reddit. Sure I discover some things there but what I really enjoy is seeing people’s reaction and genuine discussion (the quality of which is much better on Lemmy).

    I’d love to use RSS but it feels rather lonely by comparison.

    Dariusmiles2123,

    Lemmy + RSS is the way to go to get the best of both worlds then.

    LastYearsPumpkin,

    RSS is great for news, because you don’t get told what to think by a 3rd party algorithm, you aggregate news from trusted sites (multiple) and decide what to read.

    RSS also is extremely important for podcasts, that’s how it gets pushed down to your listening app (except for specific ones like Spotify and whatnot that host the content)

    merc,

    There’s always an “algorithm” that’s biasing things though.

    If you just grab the recent headlines from ABC, BBC or CBC in chronological order you’re still getting your feed biased by what news directors choosing is worth covering. With public broadcasters you’re hopefully getting less “clickbait” and more “this is important news the public needs”. But, even then, there’s going to be bias.

    LastYearsPumpkin,

    A third party isn’t involved. An RSS feed pulls in the data from the source.

    My point is that you find a trusted news source and you don’t have Google, Facebook, Apple, or Xitter deciding what you should see.

    Resol,
    @Resol@lemmy.world avatar

    I miss RSS.

    coffee_poops,

    Who the fuck Google searches for “RSS”?

    JackbyDev,

    I’ve done it.

    5714,

    the subset of those who do not use a proper search engine who want to know what a RSS is.

    coffee_poops,

    Beyond that, though, who the fuck would use Google’s search popularity as a metric for the popularity of a technology. Those who use it aren’t searching for it all the time. OP is dumb.

    5714,

    Search popularity is something like the first derivation (read: change in) popularity of a technology.

    Calling people dumb is ableist.

    vodichar,

    Is there an alternative to saying somebody or something is dumb? Or that a choice was dumb? Genuinely asking. It just seems like it’s all ableist all the way down at that point, but I’ve not heard of dumb being called ableist before so am interested if there’s a better alternative? Short-sighted? Uninformed?

    5714,
    daFRAKKINpope,

    I feel like, at least in this context, it’s unnecessary.

    If your in a submarine and OP tries to open the external hatch while submerged, sure call him dumb. If op leaves your baby in a scorpion pit because he thought it’d make the child gain super powers, dumb.

    If, however, OP thinks that Google is a valid metric to gage how popular something is. “I disagree with using this as a valid metric and here’s the reasons why.”

    No need to call him dumb. This post didn’t hurt or impact you personally. It’s just the original guy who called him dumb really doesn’t like google. Which is fine. Not gonna call him dumb for using duck duck go.

    vodichar,

    I agree, I don’t think using Google as an indicator of trends is wrong. I was just asking about why it is ableist is all :)

    bob,

    who the fuck would use Google’s search popularity as a metric for the popularity of a technology

    that’s been a leading indicator of popularity for a long time now.

    coffee_poops,

    Why would that be a leading indicator? If anything those that use it are far less likely to Google it.

    learningduck,

    People who are looking for a good RSS client for their phone?

    People hoping that it would give a web page/post with a curated list of RSS URLs.

    coffee_poops,

    You wouldn’t include any terminology to narrow your search down? Just “RSS” seems overly broad, yeah?

    learningduck,

    please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that this graph included any search with RSS in your search query. Otherwise it works be useless as people rarely search for something with just a single word.

    AeonFelis,

    Dyslectics trying to do their taxes?

    pixelscience,

    I still use Feedly daily!

    happyhippo,

    Inoreader for me

    Couldn’t live without RSS, they’re literally my #1 source of info/news/updates.

    It’s a no fuss that works so well, I don’t understand why anyone would prefer a Google feed or any other social media feed to get their updates.

    I’m in full control of the sources, no shady content pushed to me from other sources just for ad revenues.

    atrielienz,

    Some of us are “hyped” about it because when RSS fell out of favor we lost some of the RSS feeds we were using. This forced some of us to go looking for alternatives because the sites that had RSS feeds and dropped them were no longer accessible that way. And given that we see less ads and have to deal with less algorithms this way, we enjoy using RSS. If it becomes relevant enough again maybe those sources that were lost will come back. To be fair that’s probably a pipe dream. But ease of use, and use case are definitely some of the reasons.

    JustZ, (edited )

    RSS was peak internet. All been downhill since then.

    *peak, not weak.

    HulkSmashBurgers,

    Maybe sort of off topic, but it seems like activity pub could provide the same functionality (and maybe more) as RSS.

    If a news site or anything else that posts stuff periodically supported the activitypub protocol, anyone could subscribe to it, just like rss. Then when anything is posted you’d see it in your feed.

    With activitypub (and not rss) you could comment on it and see other peoples comments, and crosspost it elsewhere.

    Willdrick,

    There’s people already using it like that: off the top of my head, Nick from the linux experiment posts his videos and podcasts via @thelinuxEXP

    CharlesDarwin,
    @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

    Never stopped using it.

    average_internet_enjoyer,

    For me it has to do with this

    1. I want a feed that updates based on my subscription
    2. That subscription content could be anything, blog posts, updates on a Wikipedia page (to keep up to date with a news story that is out of the limelight), or get updated with a XKCD comic

    RSS meets both these, dead simple. It’s also low in data usage, but it’s for those reasons that I recently started using RSS after leaving it years ago.

    P.S. I believe some blame goes toward “fragmentation”, i.e. we still need to check a couple of websites for something new. RSS solves that by bringing all that into one place

    HulkSmashBurgers,

    It seems like Activitypub could do these two things and maybe more.

    reddthat.com/comment/2489957

    average_internet_enjoyer,

    Sounds interesting, especially with the fact you can comment on it. Only issue is getting sites to adopt it, and currently RSS is just dead simple to implement.

    iN8sWoRLd,
    @iN8sWoRLd@lemmy.world avatar

    I never stopped using RSS but its always been an additional source not the sole source of info for me. A lot of folks I’ve followed on various social media or who write for online mags have a personal site where they post long-form stuff. RSS is great if you want to just get a list of those authors latest posts and you don’t want to sort through thousands of other stories to find them.

    Personally I like using the Livemarks add-on in Firefox because I’m already in the browser anyway and I can manage those bookmarks using the standard bookmarks manager to keep them in any organizational structure I find convenient. Here’s the github page but you can search for it in Firefox Add-ons as well: github.com/nt1m/livemarks/

    MonkderZweite,

    By the way, how to RSS your lemmy communities?

    elscallr,
    @elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

    That would be something supported by the Lemmy (or kbin/mastodon/whatever) software. A quick look at the documentation doesn’t indicate it’s a supported view but I can’t imagine it’d be hard to implement.

    It’d probably be on a per community basis. If it’s an unauthenticated request there’d be no way to immediately get subscribed communities. I’m not sure if authenticated RSS is a thing or not.

    MonkderZweite,

    Thanks for the answer!

    Cracks_InTheWalls,
    @Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works avatar

    There’s an RSS tag on instances and communities, at least when looking at it via a web browser. Is at an indiviual instance or community level, though - as far as I know you can’t export your subscribed communities to link them all to an RSS reader in one go.

    At least, there is for sh.itjust.works, dunno about other instances. See above blue smudge below.

    https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/5447b2cf-d294-4829-b09a-da4da14f2c5a.webp

    MonkderZweite,

    Ah, thanks! I only used lemmy via app so far.

    cley_faye,

    You should not assume that the google trend for RSS is linked to the popularity of RSS feeds. Nowadays, techies uses the term, but it is somewhat hidden for a lot of people through aggregation services and other names (atom, feed, etc.).

    Contrary to the trend, there’s been a handful of people moving back to decentralized sites that supports it, and a lot of big sites never stopped supporting it. And it gets advertised as an alternative, even if not under the “rss” name.

    ren,
    @ren@lemmy.world avatar

    RSS is great for following blogs and sites of specific interests, like local sites, or sites about specific subjects. You get ALL the updates. For example. I live in Baltimore and have a bunch of local sites in my RSS reader.

    Reddit/Lemmy, on the other hand, is a more democratically human curated and upvoted aggregator so while it hits all the popular stuff beyond the topics you follow on RSS, it will miss a lot too.

    So I use both.

    Feedly for hundreds of sites of interest. And Reddit and now Lemmy for the rest.

    Good stuff!

    PooCrafter93,

    Good to see a fellow feedly user. I’m curious, have you subscribed for any of the premium feedly features and if so, would you say they are worth it?

    ren,
    @ren@lemmy.world avatar

    no, been a freebie user since Google Readers died and honestly, for the way I use it, to pop on and scroll through the feed then clicking on some articles? I’ve never felt limited or like I needed to pay to do anything.

    Unforeseen,

    Same thing for me as well, I haven’t felt limited by anything in the free version. It’s great for things like hackernews and webcomics.

    sylverstream,

    I am Feedly user as well, but use the FeedMe app on Android. I prefer that app over the Feedly one, it’s free, and I can add as many categories as I want whereas Feedly limits it to three or so in the free version :)

    PooCrafter93,

    Oh thanks for the tip. I’ll give Feedme a try

    neblem,

    What would be nest is a feed aggregatior that combos as a lemmy / larger fedi client. When reading your feed, there can be a comments button. The button would do a quick lookup to see if there has been any discussions tracked on your instance for that link and if so let you choose on of the results to join a discussion and a start new thread button that has a workflow for posting the link in a community you select.

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