not a fan of lemmy, probably having something to do with the fact it's namesake was a man who owned the largest personal collection of nazi memorabilia for years until he died, so, tough titty i guess
lemmy is the mastodon of the threadiverse in that it invents a standard and expects everyone to follow it and because it’s the largest of it’s type you can’t really do anything about it
i bet what’s going on is that kbin is attaching images in the mastodon/microblog way and lemmy expects inline markdown images and doesn’t try to extract the attached images.
(fun fact: lemmy custom emojis are just “macros” for markdown images and not real emojis like the rest of the fedi standardized on (which is how you get things like the hexbear problem of remote emojis being gigantic))
@downpunxx LOL. That would be Musk's wildest dream. The just compensation he would get would be astounding. Better to tax his space stuff...enough so that we could afford the regulatory apparatus sufficient to protect ourselves from it......
There’s a SCOTUS case that says the government only has to pay a fair market value, not the “inflated by the government’s need for the property” value. In the case a guy had bought a tugboat and fixed it up quite a bit. When WW2 started the government sought to buy it, and he insisted on a price well above the cost of the boat and the improvements, arguing that WW2 had increased demand so he should get a higher price.
So Musk would get a lot, but maybe not as much you’d think.
@jonhendry Yeah...but such a trial may require a jury, and that uncertainty very often ups the market value considerably above FMV. It would be stupid to nationalize, given the property is not unique (like real property), presents no barrier to entry. Besides, regulation and taxation are available.
@jonhendry Another huge reason why nationalization would be really stupid. Starlink's value can be dichotomized into two categories: (1) Business activity that conflicts with US foreign policy, and (2) Business activity that doesn't conflict with US foreign policy. I suspect the latter value vastly exceeds the former value. In a condemnation proceeding, the US would have to buy the whole kit and kaboodle--what a waste. Then...managing Starlink's business as a federal entity (wtf?)....
Surely the task of reviewing something written by an AI that can’t be blindly trusted, a task that basically requires you to know what said AI is “supposed” to write in the first place to be able to trust its outpu, is bound to always be simpler and result in better work than if you sat down and wrote the thing yourself.
This is only semi-related but.
When I quit Microsoft last year they were heavily pushing AI into everything. At some point they added an automated ChatGPT nonsense “summary” to every PR you opened. First it’d edit the description to add its own take on the contents, and then it’d add a review comment.
Anyone who had to deal with PR review knows it can be frustrating. This made it so that right of the bat you would have to deal with a lengthy, completely nonsensical review that missed the point of the code, asked for terrible “improvements”, or straight up proposed incorrect code.
In effect it made the process much more frustrating and time-consuming. The same workload was there, plus you had to read an equivalent of a 16-year-old who thinks he knows how software works explain your work to you badly. And since it’s a bona fide review comment, you have to address it and close it. Absolutely fucking kafkaesque.
Forcing humans to read and cleanup AI regurgitated nonsense should be a felony.
It’s already immensely frustrating how many of these things operate in such a completely non-dwim way (especially when they’re interjected in workflows that don’t need them), but overtly forcing modifications like that into one’s work is invasive and abusive as hell
I’ve been meaning to write about this for a while, think that’ll be in this weeks todo list…
@V0ldek@Jayjader At some point, I worked on a real estate website. We wanted to add little pages describing all the various neighborhoods in major cities, and contracted actual humans to do so, people who lived in said neighborhoods.
Reviewing their work, rewriting parts of it, and fixing mistakes was excruciating, I can’t even imagine trying to do that with the insipid writings of an AI that doesn’t understand the context or the purpose of what is asked of it…
It’s definitely a dream product pitch for the kind of person who “had an idea for an app and just needs to find a developer who’s willing to partner on it”
@V0ldek@Jayjader jeez. Reminds me of what they did with their whole TDD "no, don't do it! Oh ok
, now call whatever you did do 'TDD' even though we didn't allow you to do TDD" thing.
@V0ldek@Jayjader omg I so wholeheartedly agree. Why do we have to review shit we could write in the first place?
The same goes for music and visual arts.
Some people say that it will be more productive to have art created by generative models, and then a human can fix it. But why? Why leave crap jobs to humans and have the good work done by a crap machine? This is complete nonsense!
Microsoft is trying so fucking hard to push AI that it’s become pathetic at this point.
For some reason I still get those stupid GitHub emails even though I think I’ve unsubscribed from them ten times already, and it’s always the same crap about “93% of developers agree that AI is making them 67% more efficient”, or “86% of code is now written with the help of Copilot”, or “420% of our users generate sexy catgirl porn on company time”. And there’s never a source for these numbers.
Meanwhile, even the most AI-hyped marketing bozos in our company agree that Copilot is fucking useless. Even asking it so sum of some Excel rows takes more time than just writing the stupid macro yourself, and you have to double-check the macro it writes anyway.
This really has shitty Kickstarter vibes, where they make up even more insane crap every update just to get people to pledge more while they’re burning through their funds without delivering anything they promised.
It annoyed me enough to move my own repos all over to Codeberg, so I guess that’s something at least.
Microsoft does dogfood all the things actually, which I think is one of the good aspects of the company.
We used the experimental versions of Teams, all Azure changes were first deployed to the part of the cloud used by MSFT, etc. Even new C#/.NET versions are first ran through internal projects.
@V0ldek@Jayjader damn I’d resolve that conversation so fast the bot wouldn’t know what to think. If I wanted someone to propose nonsensical changes I’d ask someone not involved in the project to review it?
ME READING WARHAMMER 40K BOOKS IN 2018: this setting is so fucking dumb. No way a society would let their entire technological infrastructure be controlled by a handful of fanatics that have convinced themselves that computer code is literally God
This is part one of enshittification: You give your service away to get users, and cater to their wishes. Then once they're hooked you can do whatever you want because they can't leave.
it’s more insidious: it’s not giving it away. it’s subverting the “hmm UBI is good actually” argument and saying that people should receive compute instead of money, with a quiet “oh and naturally someone will have to pay us for providing them that compute”
Well, you know, you don’t want to miss out! You don’t want to miss out, do you? Trust me, everyone else is doing this hot new thing, we promise. So you’d better start using it too, or else you might get left behind. What is it useful for? Well… it could make you more productive. So you better get on board now and, uh, figure out how it’s useful. I won’t tell you how, but trust me, it’s really good. You really should be afraid that you might miss out! Quick, don’t think about it so much! This is too urgent!
Pretty much this. I work in support services in an industry that can’t really use AI to resolve issues due to the myriad of different deployment types and end user configurations.
No way in hell will I be out of a job due to AI replacing me.
It's nice to know we have looped back to the point in history where we casually consider which people should have agency over their reproductive rights. Oh wait, no it's not nice at all, but somehow still totally acceptable and commonplace.
extremely weird shit across the board from that user. account claims to be “18M” and running “manjaro and mint”, and then has a shell on sdf.org? along with the posts, “Yes, I’d prefer not being resuscitated. If I am finally dead, let it stay that way” just from that thread (and a number of other choice entries elsewhere in their history)
just fishy in aggregate. I wouldn’t say so much “because for olds” as “it’s far more likely for old(er)s to want something like that”. combine that with the wide array of other posts the account has engaged with, and the bio just wholly looks like bullshit to me
I mean I did fuck around on some public VAX hosted things and such in the early 00s, so it’s not impossible for this to be a true thing, but yeah. just smells off
I agree that it’s fishy in this instance, but dig around in the “smol web” subculture (gemini protocol, etc) and you’ll find plenty of youngs who live in shells… cf. tilde.town
Sorry, im a habitual contrarian about this movie (good for that poster that they commit to not do an idiocracy and use tools that helps people, for example searching for the name of a movie), but reminder that that movie is basically utopian as it takes place 500 years in the future, and the American way of life is still going strong, and the problem of the food crisis is basically solved in a week.
I think that the movie is just a shallow criticism of Bush-era conservativism and 90s “trash TV” (that was already in decline by this time). Interrogating the implications of its scifi premise feels like not meeting the movie where it’s at, which is an optimism (alien to me) that the USA is fundamentally sound and only needs a nominally reasonable Joe American to keep the levers of power away from Those Guys.
It is. It isn’t that deep I know, just wanted to point out a small thing which the people who hyperfocus on the semi-eugenics argument seem to always miss in the ‘cbt (link SFW, some links on that page are not however) is funny’ movie.
Also someone bringing up “population collapse” which is a recent(?) right-wing/techbro trope. Everything about everyone expressing worries about “sub replacement birth rates” screams “we must prevent people with wombs from making their own decisions about whether to have kids”.
I don’t know anything about evolution or genetics, and I’m pretty sure this guy doesn’t either. Why would everyone become disabled because more disabled people survive and pass on their genes to their kids? We don’t stone gingers to death and yet we are not all having red-headed kids.
The repeated use of the word “weak” (as opposed to “sick” or “disabled”) seems revealing.
“ChatGPT 7, please make me a sandwich, I’m hungry.”
As an AI language model, I cannot make a sandwich or any food for you.
However, because you have indicated that you are broke af, which is illegal in the State of Missouri, this conversation and your IP address has been reported to the state police.
This SCP Wiki entry riffs on our favorite fan fiction extruder cum doomsayer. It is the deepest, weirdest cut, it relies on having some familiarity with SCP Wiki lore, and it is also very NSFW.
Okay, that was actually funny, even though I understood zero of the in-world references. Is the whole SCP project like that or is this one an outlier?
I was of the impression that it’s just X-files meets bad creepypasta (I remember the one from years back where some paper-mâché statue chased you around when you weren’t looking at it) and never paid much attention to it.
This seems a bit typical for an scp apart from the length (which does work as a meta criticism on Rationalist writing), the focus on a real life irrelevant person, and the weird strawmanning of that person. (Not a big fan of making Yudkowsky into an allpowerful god who acts like a 20-40 year old far right hentai addicted incel (Otoh, if you used the real Yudkowsky as a model this would get mean and distasteful (from the writers side I mean) really fast, so that is a good choice) who is then re-purposed by the foundation into living a fulfilling life in consensus reality (aka, the implication is that in the real world their trick worked, and he is now using his godlike powers to fight the acausalrobotgod, critihype). The idea that to stop him we also created the patriarchy and misogyny also missed the mark a little bit imho, but they saw a previous SCP and used it so it does fit). Seeing flawed Rationalist rationalizations of their dubious actions made this explicit was amusing however.
I’m sure Yudkowsky was just as amused as we were when reading this, and considering a picture of his was used, and how the SCP files think about consent like things, I assume he was at least asked for permission.
Edit, anyway if you want to know more about the SCP files, or want to read some of their best more accessible writings (imho, and take into account this is the ‘more accessible SCP files’ writings not a general accessible writings remark), I talked about the There Is No Antimemetics Division storyline in a previous comment.
edit2: Hahah, lol, I partially agree (on why the thing is bad, not their opinions about r/sc) with this sneerclub hater. congrats on failing the intellectual turing test palindromordnilap, im almost tempted to make an account just to post in agreement with them.
There are also some nicely logically contradictory ones that are cleverly done. One SCP in particular cannot be defined, as the act of doing so changes its nature again.
There's a YouTuber called Dr Bob who does an exceptional amount of work animating and narrating SCPs.
I’m in a forum where some person claims that the sealion is actually the reasonable one.
It’s proof to me that this throwaway comic is such a good summary for certain online behavior that there’s an entire subculture built around trying to subvert it.
There’s a lot of people out there with no skills to develop a product that people actually need. They just jump on the hype train and try to sell people what is popular at the moment. Unfortunately, people are irrational, so they buy into the next big thing. Of course this has worked to a degree in the past, we got things like the car, personal computers, the Internet, smart phones, online shopping, etc. Other things became popular/ had big leaps due to necessity/demand, such as online store pickup and delivery, work from home applications, vaccine research. Other things have naturally developed over time out of expectation/ selling points, such as online search, auto correct, text to speech, translation, gps maps, and vehicle safety features like airbags and traction control. Calling an LLM AI is completely laughable when you realize that people have been doing advanced machine learning/bots for over a decade.
I agree, and also I find “over a decade” to be a very funny duration. ELIZA was developed in the 60s; it’s been over half a century since humans confused bots for people, which was the point.
“What would the reaction be?” It would be different. It would be far more negative. Do you know why it would be more negative? Because women in tech do not hold power in tech. They do not hold power in the world. A misogynistic name for that category of people would be punching down.
By contrast, “techbro” is acceptable because we know who’s in power right now, and it’s punching up.
As one insider told me (who is not me): ‘imagine an equally sexist name was given to, say, female pundits and journalists’ … what would the reaction be?’
With the amount of misandry omnipresent in mainstream media. I'm starting to question which way is up and which is down.
Techbro was originally used to describe the type of men who made it difficult for women in tech, then somewhere along the line the general public realized the same dudes were also making it difficult for lots if people in lots of places.
If tech folks never actually acted like frat bros, the bro appellation never would have happened. I’ve worked in offices with Kegs cor crissakes.
By the beer standard the most tech-bro-y place I’ve worked was Swiss Bank Corp / O’Connor in Chicago, a software focused trading shop. In 1994. NeXT machines and Symbolics LISP machines on the private trading floor kind of place, with refrigerators kept stocked with free sodas and beer. Beer was for after 5, except on St Patrick’s day, when coolers of beer came out at about noon. Also, Nerf guns on the trading floor.
And yet, at least for the people I know best from there, they didn’t turn out to be tech bros. Perhaps there’s a generational aspect.
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