smallcircles,
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Time to move off has finally come. So many to choose from, though. Makes my head spin 😵

I need one with:

  1. Great support (maybe get that webcam working finally)

  2. Smooth & slick / (I'm less of a terminal guy)

  3. Focus on , security-first approach (but not the ones that are made for James Bond)

What do you suggest?

LovesTha,
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@smallcircles Have a look at the big desktop environments and pick which one you think is slick (it is such a personal choice), look at their list of distributions that they recommend/ensure this desktop environment is up to date and support offered at the top level for any distribution you choose. Most big distros have a reasonable level of support for the biggest desktop environments, but it is not universal and you may want a less popular one.

A distro with good SELinux support gives you #3

smallcircles,
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@LovesTha

Thank you, good advice. Will do that.

ao,

@smallcircles I am happy with Fedora, after moving to it from Ubuntu, which I've been using for a couple of years prior. It has a nice look and feel along with relatively recent software, making it rather pleasant to use.

As for security, Fedora (among some other recommendations you received) is listed on Privacy Guides: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop/. Since privacy cannot be achieved without proper security, I'd assume there are no major issues with Fedora in this regard.

smallcircles,
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@ao oh, good reference. Thank you!

alcinnz,
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@smallcircles I'm personally an elementary OS fan (Pantheon desktop)!
Its awefully slick!

smallcircles,
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@alcinnz ah yes indeed! This build always had great appeal to me.

Couple things I wonder about..

  • Is driver support good?

  • Isn't this a quite experimental choice for my dev machine?

  • community size (including everything related to being 'up-to-date' e.g. wrt fixing security issues)

alcinnz,
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@smallcircles Its a Debian/Ubuntu derivative, so the core OS is very solid.

ditol,
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@smallcircles
Talking about security you bring up the guy, who upon entering a room let's everyone know his real name? James Bond would probably prefer Windows 98. In 2024. ;)

smallcircles,
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@ditol ha ha. Windows XP perhaps, special ❌ Protocol version.. 😃

yuukayuuka,
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@smallcircles I would definitely say tumbleweed honestly the KDE version at the very least if you want Wayland stuff pretty concurrently. They have yast which takes away a lot of the need to use terminal. But you can use terminal for zypper dup to update if you want 

smallcircles,
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@yuukayuuka that's interesting. Added to list, thx!

lavin,

@smallcircles Unsure whether it satisfies your criteria, but I'm halfway through moving all my servers (and server/workstations) from Ubuntu to vanilla Debian. Chose that because it's the most minimal change, given that Ubuntu is built atop Debian. Debian has worked well for me so far, though it may lack the bells and whistles and UI polish you're looking for.

smallcircles,
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@lavin thanks! Debian is on my list to investigate some more.

Mehrad,
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@smallcircles
Manjaro or Arch is my suggestion because:

  1. Being rolling release (latest version of software)
  2. Large community (is there is a problem, you are not alone in it and you can get help fast)
  3. Very good driver support
  4. Arch wiki (which applies to Manjaro) is the greatest resource
  5. You choose the DE or WM
  6. Manjaro comes with some GUI tools to manage your kernels and software
smallcircles,
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@Mehrad thanks! That is a proper useful list. Definitely put those on my learn-more list.

arcadetoken,
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@smallcircles Fedora comes to mind for 1 and 2 but is thrown off by 3. Where are you at on convenience vs security? How much convenience would you trade for a secure system? I could point you at OpenBSD (I know, not LInux) as an example but don't think it would be a good fit for 2.

smallcircles,
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@arcadetoken thank you. Just 'above average' attention to security, and slight inconvenience okay. I will add Fedora on my list, maybe take a quick peek at OpenBSD.

arcadetoken,
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@smallcircles Sounds good, OBSD is very "security at the expense of everything else" so expect difficulty using it. I wouldn't use it for a daily driver personally. Fedora can be nice. Debian is also pretty good once you get through the installation - there is some nice security in being a bit minimal due to reduced attack surface

smallcircles,
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@arcadetoken sound advice, thanks.

mana_z,
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@smallcircles

  • Driver support is bound to a kernel, so distros with newer kernels are better.

  • not terminal friendly? That means a major distro, so less DYI is needed

  • good security is a trickier, but distros with a touch of enterprise focus are usually good on this

I would take Fedora or OpenSUSE Tumbleweed

smallcircles,
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@mana_z thanks! Bunch of tumbleweed suggestions already. Will definitely check them out.

woz,
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@smallcircles Project Bluefin https://projectbluefin.io/. It’s been a revelation for me.

smallcircles,
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@woz interesting. I will check them out. Thank you.

zestygrass,
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@smallcircles try Fedora or openSuse tumbleweed

smallcircles,
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@zestygrass thank you. I will add those to the list of ones to look closer at.

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