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BeePlusPlus, in Reddit's in-jokes and overall sense of "humor" are lame and I don't want to see them migrate to Kbin.

I’m not a fan of the pun chains that somehow always ended up at the top of any Reddit comment thread

There could be a post about electricity and one of the top threads will have a joke about Watts, amps, shock, resistance, ohms, and other electric terms. The least they could have done is use Siemens, but it’s always basic wordplay that anyone can think of

And the worst part is that pun threads can be found any post regardless of the gravity of the situation. Titty post? Puns. Mundane news? Puns. A post of an innocent person being wrongly executed by electrocution? Puns.

Everyone thinks they are/wants to be a comedian, and they’d rather post a low quality joke than to add to the discussion or not say anything at all

deadcream,

Honestly I think kbin (and lemmy) should default to sort comments by "old". I started using this for reddit some time ago and it's such a breath of fresh air. Also I think it better represents actual population of communities (of course it highlights both good and bad parts of it). Funniest thing is there are still puns - only instead of upvoted chains you see dozens (or hundreds) of the same unsuccessful attempts to start these chains by would-be "comedians", which is hilarious. This definitely helped me to understand on which subreddit comments are useless, and saved a lot of my time.

JohnEdwa,
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Lemmy sorting actually specifically tries to avoid that because all it does is reward the people who commment first. https://join-lemmy.org/docs/contributors/07-ranking-algo.html

deadcream,

Comments shouldn't have "upvotes" or ranking at all.

Saganastic,

There are many forums that already have a flat design like that. The appeal of reddit or reddit-like forums is that useful information bubbles its way up to the top. This allows users to find the highest quality posts with the minimum amount of effort.

It also let's users show their appreciation for a post by upvoting it, or label a post as spam/garbage by down voting it.

tjhart85,
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Reddit used to say 'the real life pro tip is always in the comments' or something to that effect.

Why shouldn't a comment that contributed, was genuinely useful or corrected information given by the post be able to naturally rise to the top?

I understand that we don't want "This is the way!" to become the highest top rated comment, but, in most threads useful top level comments get highlighted and off-top/factually incorrect/morally repugnant ones get punted to the bottom and ones that came late to the conversation are just floating in the middle (as compared to being at the end where chances of them ever being seen are even lower).

lixus98,
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Makes you wonder what does kbin use to sort comments

Usernameblankface,
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Although I did enjoy those puns chains, I wouldn't mind leaving them behind. I imagine they would be best in their own little part of this Fediverse world. Someplace where people bring in any odd post and challenge each other to make the longest chain of puns, but out of sight for the majority of people who are seeing the posts.

But whatever, they can stay in Reddit if the want to do pun chains, it just doesn't fit the mood over here.

Kichae,

This is an artifact of having very large forums. With such a large number of people commenting on the same posts, people start making bids for attention, rather than actually commenting on the OP. Stuff that gets the most attention, rather than furthers discussion floats to the top, and people then comment on that in order to be seen.

This behaviour then filters down to smaller spaces.

If you don't want this kind of thing to happen here, participate in smaller communities. Resist the pull of community centralization.

mrbigmouth502,
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Eugh, I know. I don't miss scrolling past those to get to the "real" comments.

phi1997,

You could collapse the comments there, a feature kbin could use

mrbigmouth502,
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Good point. Another feature I miss from Reddit is the ability to hide posts. We could really use that here.

Lantech,
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and articles

mrbigmouth502,
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That's what I meant. But being able to hide both would be great.

BananaTrifleViolin,

If you're willing to use TamperMonkey there are scripts that create collapsible comments.

For example I'm using this one and you can browse other scripts and style changes in !Kbin.Styles@kbin.social / direct link

mrbigmouth502,
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I'm already using Kbin Enhancement Script and Kbin-unsquash in Violentmonkey, so I'm willing to try other userscripts too.

Bipta,

How does it differ from TamperMonkey?

mrbigmouth502,
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Biggest difference I can think of is that Violentmonkey is FOSS, while versions of Tampermonkey past 2.9 aren't.

I don't remember if I've used Tampermonkey or not, but I remember using Greasemonkey before I made the switch to Violentmonkey years ago. I don't remember what happened with Greasemonkey that prompted me to switch.

Suedeltica,
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I thought I was the only joyless curmudgeon who disliked the pun threads! I feel validated by your post and I appreciate it.

I bet, like, the very first pun thread on reddit was spontaneous and reasonably entertaining but then like anything else that got a laugh one time it got suplexed into oblivion almost immediately.

May,
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Yea and usually I like funny stuff and I laugh REAAAALLY easily but I got kinda annoyed by the Reddit jokes that are so repetitive and I was like "am i becoming grumpy or smth?" I guess not! lol

mrbigmouth502,
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That's the biggest problem with Reddit jokes tbh. They don't just beat dead horses, they atomize them.

iAmTheTot, in Reddit's in-jokes and overall sense of "humor" are lame and I don't want to see them migrate to Kbin.
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The in jokes and general comment culture on Reddit was one of my favourite parts. Usually made me laugh, some really good ones would make me laugh to the point of tears. I think that in jokes are a symptom of community.

Xeelee,
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Came to say this. I wish i could upvote more than once.

regular_human,

😡

LimitedBrain,

Nice

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX,

They were funny like 13 years ago. Within the past 5 years the user base has becoming to overwhelmingly stupid that all the in jokes are terrible, or the funny ones are done wrong.

iAmTheTot,
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Agree to disagree. ¯\(ツ)

tegs_terry,

See, this is how you looked 13 years ago. It's you that's changed, buddy. Charlie Sheen was not fucking funny, rage comics weren't funny; 'catch me outside', 'fuck her in the pussy', planking etc were all so, so moronic.

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX,

Look at how self righteous we are.

I never thought Charlie sheen was funny 13 years ago. I never thought rage comics were funny 13 years ago.

Go ahead and make some more assumptions

tegs_terry,

Not assumptions, examples. It was all trash.

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX,

My first time blocking a user.

I guess there’s a first time for everything

chinpokomon,

That's the trend I saw. I think there are two factors to this though. Earlier Reddit was more open to some level of playful banter and immaturity, which wasn't necessarily toxic, but long term it invited toxicity. Clamping down on that element more made the push back uglier. I enjoyed waterguy and bepis leaking through on occasion because it was those moments which made Reddit as a whole a community. Allowing such "humor" contributed to making Reddit feel comfortable, but it allowed those elements which also made it unsafe. The other factor is that we've matured and we want a community which provides information directly without that flair of absurdity.

I think the truth is that any community is going to naturally acquire those sort of quirks. The key is figuring out how to allow them without eroding the value which is sought.

sensibilidades, in I believe we shouldn't defederate from Meta's threads immediately after its release

I don’t see any version of their involvement that ends well. Their entire way of doing things is antithetical to what the fediverse is.

Potatomache, in I think "fediverse" is a dumb name.
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Honestly, I joined kbin because I couldn't take the opening portal of lemmy seriously with the, "link aggregator of the fediverse" subtext.

shepherd, in Sometimes I really like that we still don't have too much content at the Fediverse
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Eh, yeah I can agree with the manageable amount of content! I even try to leave kbin.social set to Federation: Off, so that it's just the local community stuff to look at lol.

I do miss my niche hobby subreddits though, it's hard to live vicariously through other people's projects right now haha

dandan, in Reddit's in-jokes and overall sense of "humor" are lame and I don't want to see them migrate to Kbin.

The whole “Let’s not poop for 72 hours” meme from Lemmy is easily Reddit tier dumb humor and it’s been beaten to death over the last few days.

mrbigmouth502,
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I'll admit, I haven't looked at the Lemmy side of things too much, so my perspective is skewed. I saw a couple comments relating to that joke beforehand, but so far I haven't seen it too much here.

Jon-H558,

Yep.the starting a "other side" or meta thread is somthing only really started on Reddit in last few years and just annoys and takes away real comment.

Like somome will post about their annoying neighbour....then people appear pretending* to be that neighbour or worker or even the neighbours dog....it just gets confusing as to which is the real post and is dumbfuckery of the highest order.

RedditExodus, in I think "fediverse" is a dumb name.
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I agree, but Reddit and Digg were also stupid names and I still spent a ton of time on those pages.

Hangglide, in I think "fediverse" is a dumb name.

It is also really confusing for new users.

Kata1yst, in Voxel Games Need to be Done
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So... Don't play them? If people get enjoyment in making and playing these games it doesn't hurt you.

They don't need to stop having fun, you need to stop caring about it so much.

AuthorInkwell,
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In practice, yes, this is precisely what I do. ^^; I mean, I'm not going to end friendships or start endless flame wars over voxels. It's not worth that much vitriol. But I saw something about yet another voxel game being launched and I had a classic Internet moment where I had to vent my frustration, and I thought this was as good a place as any!

RedditWanderer, (edited ) in The reason why Democrats didn't do more when hey controlled both Houses of Legislature, The White House, and The Supreme Court during Obama's first term, is because they didn't want to.

Sure, easy to quote Carlin and the extreme, but there are Rules for rulers.

For a simplified example, if you don’t agree to give weapons to isreal you can’t become president. But without power you can do nothing. Best you on the throne than others right? There are also heavy economic consequences based on natural resources and populations that inherently allow these governments to thrive.

You’re right they are serving the elite, but if you want to instill change you need a realistic plan. And just whining it’s all rigged is no advancing anything.

mydude,

For a simplified example, if you don’t agree to give weapons to isreal you can’t become president. But without power you can do nothing.

If someone shows you who they are, you better believe them: m.youtube.com/watch?v=2HZs-v0PR44

speck, in People who sing funny songs don't belong in stand-up comedy showcases.

They're rarely that funny, anyhow. Often one funny idea or line protracted to justify the song format

FfaerieOxide,
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I've seen bad stand-up too so that seems an unfair status to judge them not belonging on.

Some songs are funny enough if that's what you're looking for. Axis of Awesome? Love 'em.
Never though have I been searching for stand-up and thought, "You know what? I hope someone uses a guitar as a crutch for their nervousness about the format."

I likewise don't mind funny song in proms or variety shows. Those are for a variety of things. I just maintain they aren't stand-up and their inclusion in specifically stand-up sets weakens the whole show.

I support the singers of funny songs and encourage people into that to follow the passion.
I hope they get a show in an appropriate showcase.

I also love stand-up and wish everyone into that genre the confidence to do it directly.

hypelightfly, in Alcohol is bad for you

That's not an unpopular opinion.

HotDogFingies, in Alcohol is bad for you
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What? No.

Jojo-Mcfrost572, in Alcohol is bad for you
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Pretty sure we all know it is.

But it makes living in this hellish era possible.

Not sure most would be willing to suffer this sober

klyde,

It’s also not an unpopular opinion since everyone knows this. We all agree on this already. We just don’t care because it makes us feel better.

cloudy1999, in Reddit's in-jokes and overall sense of "humor" are lame and I don't want to see them migrate to Kbin.

Ah, a person of culture. This. Thank you for the gold kind stranger. Rip my inbox?

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