Arete,

Hamas will never accept a ceasefire without full Israeli withdrawal, and Israel will never accept a ceasefire that leaves Hamas in power. There is no middle ground here acceptable to both sides. It’s not going to happen until the situation substantially changes.

Cinner,

You do understand a ceasefire is temporary? It’s not an end. It’s temporary peaceful time so the starving can be fed and the wounded cared for.

Arete,

I do, but in the few last rounds of talks Hamas has consistently demanded full Israeli withdrawal as a condition to release any hostages, and a permanent peace prior to releasing all hostages.

Since Israel is obviously not going to agree to withdraw leaving Hamas to reassert full control, and further would never make a peace treaty with a terrorist organization holding their citizens hostage, I don’t see any path forward here.

philo,
@philo@discuss.online avatar

You don’t want a ceasefire?

Arete,

I didn’t state any opinion at all. I only discussed what seems politically possible right now.

philo,
@philo@discuss.online avatar

The article says they are making headway, which contradicts your post outright.

Arete,

… I’m stating my reasoning for disagreeing with the article. What I wrote is my opinion, which isn’t something an article can contradict.

philo,
@philo@discuss.online avatar

Your reasoning needs work, it is more cynical than reasoning.

Arete,

Ok so that was where you should have picked a step in my reasoning that you disagree with and explained why.

philo,
@philo@discuss.online avatar

No , that is in a debate and that is if you used reason. There have been other ceasefires between Hamas and Israel. No reply is necessary.

otp,

No reply is necessary.

You really should’ve taken your own advice

PoastRotato,
@PoastRotato@lemmy.world avatar

“This thing seems to be true.”

“Actually, this thing doesn’t seem to be true, and here’s why.”

“So you don’t want this thing to be true, then??”

Maybe now you can see how ridiculous you sound here.

philo,
@philo@discuss.online avatar

Whoever downvoted this, is it because you want the fighting to go on?

jol,

Who need a chill pill brother.

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