Hello_there,

If true, wtf. You'd think the genocide joe moniker was something to be careful of. Or I guess he can just embrace it and bend the knee to a country that's a small percentage of the US' size, gdp, and political influence.

circuscritic,

Can’t wait for the Biden apologists to give their hot takes on this one.

Israel doesn’t exist without American military support, period.

Redeploy the carrier groups, and Israel’s entire strategy goes up in smoke, as they are reliant on Aegis to protect their airspace.

Maggoty,

Their take lately is that Trump is going to commit a genocide here and anyone who doesn’t 100 percent support Biden is complicit. There’s no evidence the GOP would or could pull off a genocide but that hasn’t stopped them.

Dramaking37,

Not Biden:

Republican senator Tom Cotton said Americans should “take matters into their own hands” when dealing with pro-Palestinian protesters, encouraging vigilantism.

Melkath,

Fuck off.

I am tired of Democrats being positioned to make positive change, and then its "but they are worse, it was them!"

Biden is brokering the arms deals. Biden is directing UN council. Biden is shoving through funding to Israel.

A liberal president would have done none of that.

The 2 party system is a farce.

Please dont make WWIII actually happen... please...

NotMyOldRedditName,

If the US doesn’t help them, and they suffer a larger attack because of it, we then find out if they truly have nuclear weapons, which also isn’t a good outcome.

This is all lose lose lose.

Everyone just needs to fucking stop.

Tryptaminev,

No one was interested in an escalation except Israel. Iran has repeatedly shown that they want to keep it at fighting through proxies. Syria is in shambles and Lebanon is struggling too. Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt are all bought by the US.

Israel will stay at war, because that is what is keeping Bibi in power and now they have the opportunity for mass murder and land grabs like they haven’t had in a long time.

The US could end all of this and if the US wasn’t a genocidal colonial force on both parts of the political isle, it would do so.

JustZ,

Uhhhh, in this fantasy, why is Iran paying proxies to kill Jews?

Flyswat,

It’s not about religion. Don’t fall for this narrative.

Iran has its Jewish community which has political representatives.

At the end of the discussion Khomeini declared, “We recognize our Jews as separate from those godless, bloodsucking Zionists”[62] and issued a fatwa decreeing that the Jews were to be protected.

Wiki article

JustZ,

Ridiculous. Read some books or even the rest of this article.

Maggoty,

If they use nukes they lose all rights to being a state. Possibly their lease on their mortal coils as well. This isn’t the 1970’s, Jordan and Egypt aren’t going to invade; and Syria or Lebanon would just be a clown show.

yourNewFavouriteUser,

“yeah yeah sure you can do a little more genocide as treat if you don’t start another war”

GeorgimusPrime,

This strikes me as an attempt to increase complacency for a Rafah attack by presenting it as done deal.

Maggoty,

Orrrrr

Biden could finally read the reports on credible accusations of human rights abuses and tell Netanyahu he’s cut off.

Seems like a better path than letting himself get played so publicly.

tearsintherain, (edited )
@tearsintherain@leminal.space avatar

Biden is the dude that fist-bumped that Saudi ruler who ordered the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi on foreign soil. Same Saudi ruler who gave Jared Kushner $2 billion to invest thanks to his time serving in his father-in-laws administration. Same Kushner who joked the Palestinian land would have some great beach front property for development (post genocide).

What a wonderful world we live in.

FordBeeblebrox,

Change the shipping label on all those weapon crates from Tel Aviv to Kyiv and tell Bibi he doesn’t get any more toys until he learns how to play nice with others. It’s disturbing how spineless our government is when it comes to religious lobbies.

BrokenGlepnir,

The US intercepted just about all the missiles. Israel owes the US for that, they shouldn’t get to make demands.

wintermute_oregon,

That’s how we should handle the counter attack Israel did. If you attack Iran, we won’t help defend you when Iran attacks you back.

goferking0,

But I keep getting told Biden can’t do anything to stop the genocide, then he goes and continues to fucking okay it

Deceptichum, (edited )
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

You have to understand he’s only the PotUS; A completely powerless figurehead position.

filister,

Hmmm, this didn’t age well, I guess.

nondescripthandle,

And they’ll still support the invasion. Biden got played for a fool, and it wasn’t hard to see this would be the outcome.

JustZ,

Israel is going to invade Rafah either way.

SuddenDownpour,

Biden has gotten played for a fool for months. If you have no red lines and the party you’re negotiating realizes that, they’ve got you by the balls and they’re going to do whatever the hell they want until the day of final judgement.

anas,

Biden got played for a fool

Why are y’all acting like the President of the United States is a fool, and that he couldn’t stop this if he wanted to?

TheBananaKing,

Hey US: how’s that working out for you?

wintermute_oregon,

This didn’t age well. Israel attacked Iran

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Israel: strikes Iran anyways be cause Genocide Joe will support anything Netanyahi does.

Jimmyeatsausage,

Or maybe, jpost is an unreliable source?

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Biden admin already started walking back their ““red line”” recent days and claiming “israel decides for itself”

ShittyBeatlesFCPres,

Well, they apparently just struck Iran (and apparently also Iraq/Syria) so maybe the Rafah invasion is off. Probably not but it’d be nice if this deal is real and they just got what Bibi picked wrong.

ivanafterall,
ivanafterall avatar

We suck so much.

hark,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

I knew the israeli butchers were going to go into Rafah no matter what, but it makes me extra sick that they’re dressing it up by pretending it’s balanced out by not attacking Iran (after attacking their embassy in the first place).

JustZ, (edited )

I don’t think the Israelis consider them to be separate matters.

Avoiding the hot war with Iran in exchange for something Israel was going to do anyway, was the US’s position. I guess we will see how many lives it would have saved since Israel is bombing right again right now.

I say hundreds of thousands.

ThrowawayPermanente,

This is exactly right

Annoyed_Crabby,

Dear strongest country in the world: what happen? You look super weak to fold under the demand of a country that’s smaller than Hawaii.

wildbus8979,

Always has been a Potemkin city. Hence the constant loud mouthing.

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