joyjoy,

I find it ironic that TikTok is already banned in its country of origin. (By banned, I mean isolated from the rest of the world, has different rules, and is named something else)

wildbus8979,

It already does in the US as well…

HootinNHollerin, (edited )

Yup. China is dystopian and I feel sorry for those that don’t get that yet

Edit: go see for yourself. My opinion is based on my working there several months per year for over 5 years

HootinNHollerin,

What is this title? Passed bill to TikTok? It’s a member of the executive branch now?

ech,

Even for a lazy writer, that’s a bad title. Makes me wonder if they use LLMs for their content.

joyjoy,

TikTok ban in US is in motion as Senate passes bill to [ban] TikTok

Does this make sense?

HootinNHollerin, (edited )

That does but just bad editing on publisher’s part to go to press as is. So downvote it gets.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Now China will have to pay for all of its American social media data instead of getting some of it for free. That’ll show 'em.

NatakuNox,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

What’s laughable is thinking a world super power needs social media to get information on anyone on earth. I have issues with social media and privacy in general, but to think our American owned social media is somehow not a security and privacy treat is gaslighting at best, and destructive to democracy, mentally health, and individuals freedoms at worst.

fuckingkangaroos,

Mmm no. This privacy treat is disgusting please take it away.

Mrkawfee,

It’s ok they can always sell it to rich Zionists who will censor, sorry, moderate the platform to remove troubling anti semitism.

hellequin67,

Can someone from the US explain , like I’m a 2 year old, how it is possible to pass a piece of legislation as part of a completely unrelated piece?

I.e. If they wanted to not block TikTok would they have had to block the whole bill from passing , so no aid?

catloaf,

It’s possible because there’s no rule against it.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine, poison, a few crayons, and a spoonful of salt, and a spoon go down. Then they’d call it the Protecting Mouths With Forks Act or something.

Send help.

paddirn,

Sometimes when Mommy and Daddy lawmakers love each other very much, they put things inside of other things that might be very bad, but they do it because they love each other very much and the kids really shouldn’t be watching what they’re doing behind closed doors.

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

I’m definitely feeling the love, how about yall?

manucode,
@manucode@infosec.pub avatar

I’m not from the US but I think it’s to enable compromise.

Some lawmakers (group A) don’t want to support either a TikTok ban or aid for Ukraine. Other lawmakers (group B) want a TikTok ban and are willing to support aid for Ukraine, even if they don’t like it that much. A third group of lawmakers (group C) wants aid for Ukraine and is willing to support a TikTok ban, even if they don’t like it that much.

No group is big enough to pass anything on its own. Therefore, group B and C agree to work together to pass both a TikTok ban and aid for Ukraine.

They could pass two laws, one banning TikTok and one providing aid to Ukraine. But they don’t trust each other. If the TikTok ban was passed first with the votes of both groups, group B could betray group C afterwards and not support aid for Ukraine. If aid for Ukraine was passed first, it would be the other way round.

Therefore, group B and C bundle TikTok ban and aid for Ukraine together into a single law. Now, neither group can betray the other.

In reality, the situation is obviously more complicated. There are more than just three groups and there are additional things included in the deal like military aid for Israel and Taiwan and humanitarian aid for Palestine.

sylver_dragon,

US Federal Law does NOT require that bills only deal with a single issue. So, a single bill could send aid to Ukraine, outlaw hats and declare Tuesday, “puppy kicking day”. And that would be fully within the US Constitutional method for passing Federal laws. All that matters is that the exact same text is passed in both The House of Representatives and The Senate and is then signed by The President. There’s a whole bunch of other stuff around it (veto process, and filibuster), but the ELI5 version is both houses of Congress pass the same bill and the President signs it and thus it becomes US Federal Law.

There will, of course, be a whole other process around the law being challenged in the Courts. ByteDance will undoubtedly challenge the TikTok ban in Court. And that will take years to fully wind it’s way through the system. And the courts may issue an injunction, preventing the law from being enforced, until the decision is made. Basically saying, “nope Federal Government, you cannot enforce this until we say so”. Personally, I would expect that in this case. So, don’t expect TikTok to leave the US any time soon. Note that, this can be done to part of a law (again, I would expect this) and not the whole law at once. So, this won’t imperil US aid to Ukraine, Israel or Taiwan. It just means that we’re likely to see the bounds of US Federal Government power tested a bit. Does the US Federal Government have the power to unilaterally kick a company out of the US? I’d bet on “yes”, especially with the ties to national security. But, I could easily lose that bet.

i_am_not_a_robot,
Stovetop,

They’re called [Riders,](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rider_(legislation)) and it is to convince on-the-fence officials to support a bill by including extra measures they’re likelier to support.

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