Calcharger,
Calcharger avatar

So like, I get that Ukraine is doing exceedingly well in the war, but how are they able to keep pace with Russia's manpower pool? Even if Ukrainians were killing 5:1, they would still be in a world of hurt, right?

nttea,
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The number of Ukrainians willing to risk death in Ukraine probably outnumbers the amount of russians willing to risk death in Ukraine, regardless with 30+ million population you can build the strongest army in the world manpower is not the most important resource.

morry040,

If it was only about deaths, then yes, Ukraine would eventually run out of soldiers. However, there are two other factors that can impact the fighting force - POWs and medical care for wounded.

When a POW is captured, they are removed from the battlefield and do not return (unless you have a prisoner swap). In the early phases of the war, there would have been more Ukrainian POWs than Russian POWs as the Russians were on the offensive. Now that defensive positions have been established, it swings the other way - we would expect more Russian POWs due to the counteroffensive resulting in more Russian attrition and surrender. According to reports, we also know that more than 16,000 Russians surrendered via the "I Want to Live" hotline project from Sep 2022 - Apr 2023. There would be a much higher number who surrender directly on the battlefield.

The differences in medical care would also be significant. When a Russian soldier is wounded, they have to rely on medical care from their nearest military outpost and they are limited to Russian medical supplies (which could have quality issues). When a Ukrainian soldier is wounded, they already have the home field advantage of having faster access to healthcare, but they also have medical supplies provided by the entire Western world and countless volunteers or donors who are committed to helping a Ukrainian soldier recover and possibly return to the battlefield in good condition.

When you add these additional factors into the mix, the ratio of Ukrainian soldiers to Russian soldiers likely becomes closer.

Calcharger,
Calcharger avatar

Thank you for this insightful, detailed response. I didn’t think about access to higher quality medical care being a defensive war. Great points

xuxebiko,

Also, school children are being trained to be child soldiers and it's only a matter of time before pensioners are drafted (it'll also save the govt some money).

Putin either really hates Russians or loves Ukrainian sunflowers.

xc2215x,

He is really desperate now.

xuxebiko,

He really is, and he's plmubing new depths of inhumanity. @PersnickityPenguin has a post up about Russian teens and teenaged African girls being forced to build Shahed kamikaze drones for Russia.

Link to the post : https://kbin.social/m/world@lemmy.world/t/255015/Russian-teens-forced-into-drone-manufacturing-slavery

HubertManne,
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Ths is going to be funny because there is a reason armies tend to be late teens and early twenties. If all armies drafter 35 year olds, wars would be very different.

UnhappyCamper,
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Due to physical limitations, or were there other factors you were thinking of?

GCanuck,

Speaking as someone older than that, there’s far less reason/pressure to submit to authority when you’re older.

And far more likely that officers would get fragged if they were cavalier with soldiers lives.

Note: I’m not talking about professional soldiers that are older, but conscripts.

xuxebiko,

maybe its easier to con the young into dying with ideas of 'valour/ honour/ pride'' ? talk to any 30+ about doing anything dangerous/ killing himself for 'honour' and they'll ask you to demonstrate it first.

@HubertManne

HubertManne,
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Yeah in terms of "alright you grunts so take that hill!" usually they want that followed by crazy hu ra yelling and going up the hill as opposed to something like "nah. now is not a good time."

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