If you didn't know, on DuckDuckGo you can search for posts or magazines with site:kbin.social just like you would with Reddit. The same applies to any other Fediverse site like Kbin, Lemmy, Mastodon, etc.. I was really frustrated because it seems like Google was intentionally suppressing them....
Hi, I'm a bit confused by how comment sorting works on kbin. Newest and oldest are pretty self-explanatory, but how do active and hot work? Is there a way to sort comments by top like on lemmy?
I'm posting this from Lemmy because I came across your post under the "all" communities section, and kbin is federated with lemmy. So I'd imagine there's a way.
I have never been a huge Reddit user but I am obviously fascinated by the potential migration to #Threadiverse alternatives. Tell me friends, what’s better!? #kbin or #lemmy and does it matter because they are interoperable?! 👍 🙌 #Fediverse
@chris I'm using #lemmy, #kbin and Post.News. I've been on Post longer than Mastadon and I'm not sure why it's not also in the conversation - it's my go to.
I don't believe there's a native way to do this unfortunately. Currently you can only search for other communities (magazines) specific to your kbin instance. As @ChrV noted there are ways to do this via 3rd party
However, once you find a community from another compatible instance you can search for it through kbin.social and subscribe to it. Like searching for "mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world" without quotes in the search bar will let you subscribe to the mildlyinfuriating community on lemmy.word and the content will show up under kbin.social/sub
Signs of the #RedditMigration in action: Three of the top 6 fastest growing #Fediverse servers are not only not Mastodon.social but they are not even microblogging servers - but rather are #Threadiverse servers.
That is only seriously good for the entire Fedi infrastructure. Diversity is strength.
@Zach777@blake forgive my ignorance as I was never on reddit (but now I'm confused). Is the difference in the type of service that on these kbin and lemmy, the conversations are subject based and generate a long thread? Whereas on Mastodon it's more a timeline of unrelated messages? Thank you
#NotOnGitHub: Tell us about your favourite #OpenSource / #FreeSoftware projects that are not available on mainstream platforms, whether on a self-hosted cgit or available as an archive download only.
I created !guildwars2 because !guildwars2 does not have en active moderator and lemmy.ml itself is having a tough time dealing with the influx of new users, making the site very sluggish. It’s getting better now, but the point of Lemmy (the Fediverse) is to spread out among multiple servers.
In the case of !guildwars2, which is different from Lemmy, I didn’t realize it existed because a bug disabled federation between kbin and Lemmy. Were that to happen again, everyone on Lemmy would be cut off from !guildwars2.
kbin: This is a very early beta version, and a lot of features are currently broken or in active development, such as federation. Source…
!guildwars2 does have 17 more subscribers, but !guildwars2 have twice the amount of comments ;)
Edit: Disclaimer: I am the maintainer (administrator) of lemmy.wtf
lemmy users want to stay on lemmy. they don't want to come to kbin (even to troll). and I think the few that might end up here will just be drowned out by good faith kbinauts.
Given the much higher number of Lemmy instances, you may well be 100% correct on that, that is, even trolls may just decide to 'stick with what they know' and continue to use a Lemmy based instance.
if someone has an issue with kbin being open to everyone, then they will naturally block us no matter what we do.
Also correct, however, I understand that if a post is local to kbin.social, and had comments from lemmy.world users, in addition to kbin.social users, and a beehaw.org use came to the post, they wouldn't see any of the comments from the defederated users. That is to say, so long as one instance doesn't federate with another, they will never see posts from that instance, regardless of where they are.
I'm not saying that won't still prevent people defederating with kbin.social purely because we're open / federate with another community they specifically defederated from, but there's less reason to if kbin.social maintains a quality userbase.
I think that spirit and culture is far more important than whether or not a few bad apples start getting other instances wanting to defederate.
If a large amount of "beehaw haters" start flooding kbin and changing the culture to be one of toxicity and vitriol, then I do think we'd start having a problem.
Another agreement from me here, however, the point of this post is to start a discussion around whether or not we can prevent being overwhelmed with bad apples too early on in the platforms lifespan (although I appreciate we've already addressed this above).
As has been said, at this point, it's entirely up to @ernest, but I think it's worth looking at potentially taking a couple more people on to assist with the moderation side of things.
even trolls may just decide to 'stick with what they know' and continue to use a Lemmy based instance.
Yup. there's a ton of lemmy instances that aren't blocked by beehaw, so it's likely any trolls would just use those in the first place.
however, I understand that if a post is local to kbin.social, and had comments from lemmy.world users, in addition to kbin.social users, and a beehaw.org use came to the post, they wouldn't see any of the comments from the defederated users. That is to say, so long as one instance doesn't federate with another, they will never see posts from that instance, regardless of where they are.
Think of defederation as "blocking" an instance. if lemmyworld users and beehaw users come to a kbin magazine, lemmyworld users will see everything as proper because they didn't block anyone. beehaw users will see an altered version that hides/removes lemmyworld posts. Lemmyworld users can interact with us like normal, while beehaw users can interact with us, but they won't see anything that lemmyworld users are doing on here. Lemmyworld is blocked from beehaw so they won't get updates from beehaw. Meaning beehaw communities won't sync for them, and beehaw users won't see lemmyworld users/communities. But lemmyworld users will see beehaw posts on kbin magazines.
I'm not saying that won't still prevent people defederating with kbin.social purely because we're open / federate with another community they specifically defederated from, but there's less reason to if kbin.social maintains a quality userbase.
Keep in mind that kbin is federated with some popularly blocked instances, like lemmygrad. we federate with everyone afaik. the swiss neutrality of the fediverse tbh.
Another agreement from me here, however, the point of this post is to start a discussion around whether or not we can prevent being overwhelmed with bad apples too early on in the platforms lifespan
Right I think this is the bigger issue (and less so the drama bout other instances). In terms of lemmyworld users coming here and causing problems.... I don't think it's an issue. kbinauts largely don't have an issue with lemmyworld (we're not crying to block them). and lemmyworld people can interact with our stuff just fine.
however, a larger influx of users from elsewhere (such as what happened with reddit) can potentially change culture. but I think things are still early enough that kbinauts can decide how we want the culture to be here. and I think the consensus seems to be: neutrality, civility, polite discourse, and trying to achieve mutual understandings. I'd say we're doing a good job in that regard :)
My thinking re: closing registrations for a time, is that if currently the only person that can action warranted sitewide bans (e.g. users actively using hate-speech in multiple posts in multiple magazines) is ernest, then there may be a point where there's simply too much to keep on top of, given everything else he has going on.
These concerns may well be completely unwarranted, and I'm well aware that even if kbin.social were to be defederated from a number of instances, that once "the situation" was under control, they could be re-federeated if agreed with the other instances. It would just be a shame to hamper our own community by being relatively powerless against a potential influx of bad faith users whilst ernest is busy being awesome and actively improving kbin as a whole.
Federation basically means that content from one instance will be shown to users on another instance and vice versa.
The content is the same, it's just shown in different ways, depending on the platform you're using. So, if you like the microblogging format you can use Mastodon as your daily driver. If you like the link-sharing format you can use Limmy/Kbin as your daily driver. If you like photo sharing you can use a Pixelfed account. You have a sh.itjust.works account. I can follow you on Kbin (https://kbin.social/u/@burndown@sh.itjust.works) or Mastodon (https://mstdn.social/@burndown@sh.itjust.works) or Pixelfed, etc.. I can send you a message from a Mastodon account, a Limmy account or a Kbin account, or a Pixelfed account. I can comment on this post from any of those accounts.
The fediverse is based on the ActivityPub standard that outlines content types (user, text, image, video, link, etc) and how people interact with them (following, blocking, boosting, favoriting, etc.). Each platform gives you a different way of interacting with the content and how the content is displayed. For example, Pixelfed doesn't show text posts - it is only interested in media posts (images and video), so if you follow someone's Mastodon account on Pixelfed you won't see everything they post. When they post images, the content is going to be displayed in an image-focused design. Mastodon shows posts based on the time they were posted, regardless of how many likes, boosts, or comments they have. Limmy and Kbin give you options to rank content based on favorites, boosts, and comments.
Same content, just a different way of seeing and interacting with it.
@ottaross kbin is still in beta stage, and some of the federation capabilities are turned off at the moment to help handle the surge in new traffic while @ernest is adding servers. In a week or so, it should be back to full steam ahead.
Oh I see, so kbin is an instance in its own right that uses activitypub and that's what links it to other instances that use it too? I think I'll go watch some videos explaining all of this, maybe on PeerTube instead of YouTube ;)
For a sub that’s supposed to promote Reddit alternatives, there sure is a lot of pessimism on there. I see so many people dismissing Lemmy and kbin already for being too inaccessible, the UI is clunky, it’s hard to pick up etc and saying these sites will never take off. But why? Of course a platform in its infancy will have...
An understandable but imo misguided decision. I am on Kbin so we're not affected yet but it's a bad precedent to set in this time of growth for defederation imo. It erodes trust in instances that practice it.
Lemmy is the Reddit like portion of the fediverse.
Don't forget about #kbin which has both "reddit subs like" functions (magazines) and "twitter like" functions (microblogs). And all are linked to lemmy and mastondon instances, or whatever else in the fediverse.
Do 5 year olds have email? Because it's kind of like that. You have an email address "someone@gmail.com" and you can send a message to "person2@hotmail.com". You don't both have to be on Gmail.
Well fediverse apps are kind of like this. Imagine lots of little reddits with their own communities and user bases.
You are your_name_here@kbin.social. You can talk to otherguy@lemmy.ml. Same goes for magazines/communities (subreddits). If you want to join a magazine on another server, you can do that like @technology (notice the leading @ symbol which tells Kbin that it's a magazine and not a user).
This is what is most important for the average user to understand about the fediverse. There is a ton more than this like interoperability with different apps that aren't thread based like Kbin and Lemmy like Mastodon but that's a different discussion.
I took a good look around Lemmy and its instances, but found the UI a tad too compact and busy for my taste. kbin in comparison is a bit more relaxed and easier to read. And sign-ups were open when it was time to make my decision. That was literally it.
I'm seeing the federated content, but it's hard to tell where the content came from. Currently, the only reliable way to see the source is by reading the URL when you're viewing a thread. It doesn't work well on mobile though and it doesn't work for the feed....
Although I didn't know we were going to be able to see each other today (hello peeps! Pleasure to meet you) and I thought I was on a Lemmy Instance talking about what they are doing on Kbin
Just found out that DuckDuckGo can be used to search Fediverse sites easily.
If you didn't know, on DuckDuckGo you can search for posts or magazines with site:kbin.social just like you would with Reddit. The same applies to any other Fediverse site like Kbin, Lemmy, Mastodon, etc.. I was really frustrated because it seems like Google was intentionally suppressing them....
OC 4000 Users in a week !
Just wanted to say thanks and fuck spez....
comment sorting
Hi, I'm a bit confused by how comment sorting works on kbin. Newest and oldest are pretty self-explanatory, but how do active and hot work? Is there a way to sort comments by top like on lemmy?
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Which GW2 community is going to be the ONE?
!guildwars2...
OC Potentially unpopular opinion: It may be time to close registrations (temporarily).
Hey kbinMeta....
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Lemmy Explorer: Search All Communities and Instances (lemmyverse.net)
cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/717257...
It was confusing at first (lemmy.world)
What’s with the cynicism towards Lemmy on r/RedditAlternatives and Reddit in general?
For a sub that’s supposed to promote Reddit alternatives, there sure is a lot of pessimism on there. I see so many people dismissing Lemmy and kbin already for being too inaccessible, the UI is clunky, it’s hard to pick up etc and saying these sites will never take off. But why? Of course a platform in its infancy will have...
What is fediverse and why is it so talked about in this site?
fediverse?
Why did you choose your instance?
I'm currently struggling to find my home. I have an account here at lemmy.ml, where most of my posts are, and one at kbin....
kbin.social federating - not working on Reddthat
I saw this post about how kbin.social is now federating: https://reddthat.com/post/32223...
Now that federation works, we need more clarity of source
I'm seeing the federated content, but it's hard to tell where the content came from. Currently, the only reliable way to see the source is by reading the URL when you're viewing a thread. It doesn't work well on mobile though and it doesn't work for the feed....