charliejane, to random
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"The story of car bloat—the continually expanding size of the typical American automobile—is one of carmaker profit, shifting consumer preferences, and loophole-riddled auto regulations. It is also a story of hidden costs: to the planet, to taxpayers, and to the American families whose lives have been shattered by a crash that could have been avoided, or at least mitigated, with a smaller vehicle."

https://slate.com/business/2023/12/cars-trucks-suv-sales-electric-safety-risk.html

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@charliejane all the "" exemptions the allows should be scrapped - period.

Also the fact that the doesn't do testing unlike is becond me!

Cuz a lot of the shite done in the is literally banned in the for being dangerous to other traffic participants like pedestrians, cyclists, bikers and smaller/lighter vehicles...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mSXMruEo

GreenFire, to random
@GreenFire@mstdn.social avatar

These two vehicles have the same bed size.

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@threetails @douglasvb @GreenFire @fuchsiii @notjustbikes But being done only in-class and not like with ALL traffic participants is telling...

It has nothing to do with bur solely with .
https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo?feature=shared&t=1770

CrackedWindscreen, to random
@CrackedWindscreen@mastodon.online avatar

My word there are suddenly a lot of Automatic Emergency Brake experts, I suppose they needed something to do after being the submarine experts and the AI experts.

All that I have seen are amply demonstrating they know tap all about AEB.

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen Unsurprisingly.

, as you and I have discussed before at length, has been a prime party in inappropriately expanding the scope, reliability and applicability of their AEB assessments.

All in the interests of providing cover for disinterested auto safety regulators.

has VERY simplistic AEB assessments that involve child-sized mannequins, by design.

Politicians, if they even need a basis, are going to point to those assessments as a "quick fix".

CrackedWindscreen, to random
@CrackedWindscreen@mastodon.online avatar

"Track based assessments" of driver assistance tech, whilst being awful in many circumstances on our roads. Thanks to OEMs working to pass the tests, as admitted by Thatcham, and not be user and real-world friendly.

Looking forward to seeing data that proves these help - I'll cut to the chase, the only data we will ever get is if it is activated, no proof it did anything of use. And that is used already to claim "SAFETY", see the meaningless AEB data that is spouted.

https://www.euroncap.com/en/press-media/press-releases/self-driving-cars-are-not-yet-on-our-roads-but-assisted-driving-systems-are-already-supporting-drivers-safety-today/

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen My god.

This press release, at minimum, by is absurd.

And dangerous.

This organization is out of control.

Where to even begin with this?

I guess... why is new terminology being created to describe these systems?

That is just what we need in this space. More terminology. 🙄

And this is just outlandish below.

The very systems definition of a Level 2-capable vehicle precludes any inherent whole system safety benefits.

adamjcook,

@EricPaulDennis @CrackedWindscreen It reads like just drew from industry talking points… which they did.

If EuroNCAP has a safety case established such that it fundamentally changes the control relationship between the human driver and the automated system in a Level 2-capable vehicle… then they should present it.

But I already know they do not have it.

CrackedWindscreen, to random
@CrackedWindscreen@mastodon.online avatar

Oh goody. More Euro NCAP scores.

Or more accurately, very well built cars, thanks to NCAP's work, whose manufacturers have been pressurised into fitting technology that works on a test track but not reliably on public roads, as NCAP needed to keep its business going after it reached the limit of safe construction, so made up where else it pokes its nose.

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen Yup.

program make no sense if there is not rigorous oversight into internal processes.

actually (and uniquely), in my view, pretends that it is serving such a regulatory function - and that is extremely dangerous to do that.

The public is being misled.

CrackedWindscreen, to random
@CrackedWindscreen@mastodon.online avatar

This is me totally un-shocked at this news.

All the other OEMs should be worried too, their ADAS systems are utter garbage on the road too (except rear cross traffic warning).

https://jalopnik.com/whistleblower-drops-100-gigabytes-of-tesla-secrets-to-g-1850476542

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen So far, on the surface, the content looks pretty damning.

I want to see the details though, which I think are forthcoming in several parts.

I think also, from how it appears, it could be pretty damning to as well.

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