ultimike, to php
@ultimike@drupal.community avatar

A blog post about the very cool Quicklink module without mentioning @mikeherchel ?

https://fivejars.com/blog/quicklink-tool-boosts-website-conversions-50

He desperately needs the attention and approval - maybe mention him next time? 😜

Via Dimitry at Five Jars.

pcambra, to php
@pcambra@drupal.community avatar
sillygwailo, to php
@sillygwailo@mastodon.social avatar

I won a contest at work to showcase a site! I get $200 US to spend on the town, to be used sometime within the next 6 months. I can’t disclose which site it was (it was not mine, I’ll put it that way), but it used Drupal to build a unique experience in a unique way, both in a good and bad way. It matched my hope that the software could be used to build applications, not “just” websites.

ultimike, to php
@ultimike@drupal.community avatar

If you're really into , , and , then you'll love this round-up of new features in Drupal 10 - specifically related to Symfony 6.2:

https://evolvingweb.com/blog/hands-drupal-10-symfony-62-new-tech-stack

Thanks, Efrain Herrara from Evolving Web.

symfonystation, to Symfony
@symfonystation@phpc.social avatar

Great news! Symfony UX now has a Svelte bundle. https://symfony.com/bundles/ux-svelte/current/index.html :symfony: drupal: twig:

mobileatom, to php
@mobileatom@me.dm avatar

Simplifying the frontend developer experience in Drupal with a click of the button.
https://mglaman.dev/blog/simplifying-frontend-developer-experience-drupal-click-button

mglaman, to php
@mglaman@phpc.social avatar
elly, (edited ) to random
@elly@front-end.social avatar

I’ve just had a thought (I know 🙄), I’m currently revamping the theme picker on my website and obviously I’m wanting to keep accessibility considerations in mind in doing that.

The question that has popped into my head, would it just be better to hide the theme picker in forced-colors mode?

rachel_norfolk,

@elly I seem to remember this being a question for those working on new default themes for . Worth asking there what they decided.

@mherchel or @ckrina might know from a design pov and @cariefisher is the a11y person I know on Mastodon

DianaThompson, to accessibility

CMS and accessibility people: Is there a CMS that was created with accessibility from the start?

markdorison, to php

Carving out a hierarchy of needs with 7 users is critical as we approach end-of-life. Listen in on CMS co-founder Jen Lampton's take on focusing on “the people that need the help the most” in episode 7 >> https://chromatichq.com/insights/drupal-7-eol-podcast-episode-07/

video/mp4

ultimike, to php
@ultimike@drupal.community avatar

Lots of practical web-devevelopment (and ) focused info in this Q&A style blog post from Ashley Burns at Promet Source:

https://www.prometsource.com/blog/navigating-web-accessibility-expert-perspectives

symfonystation, to Symfony
@symfonystation@phpc.social avatar

Explore our newest article -> How four Symfony Components + Twig help simplify Drupal Core. https://www.symfonystation.com/Symfony-Components-Twig-Drupal-Core

mobileatom, to Symfony
@mobileatom@me.dm avatar

Explore the newest @symfonystation article -> How four Symfony Components + Twig help simplify Drupal Core. https://www.symfonystation.com/Symfony-Components-Twig-Drupal-Core

drupalthoughts, to php
@drupalthoughts@fosstodon.org avatar

okfine "...require php ^7.3 -> your php version (8.1.9) does not satisfy that requirement." 😬

ultimike, to php
@ultimike@drupal.community avatar

I agree that the ECA module makes it easier to go from 7 to 10, but a few examples would make this blog post even better!

https://www.lakedrops.com/en/blog/now-right-time-update-drupal-7-10-thanks-eca

Show a simple example of where ECA can replace a simple custom module.

Regardless, @jurgenhaas gets no argument from me.

jurgenhaas,
@jurgenhaas@fosstodon.org avatar

@ultimike
Great suggestion, thanks. I'll have a look what I can provide for that, maybe even a case study from customer projects.

jurgenhaas,
@jurgenhaas@fosstodon.org avatar

@stpaultim @ultimike My mantra has been for many years:

"There is no website being small enough, not to be perfectly suitable to be done with Drupal."

In other words: is suitable also for small (and simple) sites. This is even more true with Drupal 10. And with Drupal as your underlying framework, your site easily grows with your requirements - and if they didn't grow, that's fine too!

jurgenhaas,
@jurgenhaas@fosstodon.org avatar

@stpaultim @ultimike

My thesis in the blog post: "...not having a budget for a Drupal 7 to 10 update makes me wonder where the budget for the continued use of either outdated, or in the case of switching the platform, less capable technology should come from"

My prediction is, that a 10 upgrade will pay back in the long run. But I'm not pushing anyone, it's more like providing a perspective which may help people see a bigger picture.

ruby,

@stpaultim @jurgenhaas @ultimike

Exactly, Tim. Like many developers this article fails to understand the kind of organizations that are using 7. It's not just a matter of the cost of rebuilding the entire site. People who spent years developing the skills to manage D7 now have to learn multiple entirely new and sometimes more complicated tools and languages. That's just not going to happen at many grassroots & nonprofit organizations.

And this really bums me out because it's just these kinds of users and site builders that adopted and evangelized Drupal from about 2005 to 2016. When Dries started taking about "ambitious" sites, we knew he wasn't taking about us.

jurgenhaas,
@jurgenhaas@fosstodon.org avatar

@ruby @stpaultim @ultimike I take your point, still the reflection is worth having. There are so many professions that had decades of knowledge and experience, which eventually became less usefull - and they all have to progress. The same happens in the "web industry", just at a much much higher pace.

This is where my argument comes from: the longer you don't learn the new tricks, the more expensive it becomes.

jurgenhaas,
@jurgenhaas@fosstodon.org avatar

@ruby @stpaultim @ultimike Sorry, I'm not seeing how this is a conclusion of what I've said before. It's just the opposite: learning new tools is very important, so Drupal is not leavoing anyone behind, it is the highway to the future.

That is only for enterprises is a myth, that doesn get true just because we continue to repeat it.

And the cost for owning a Drupal site has never been lover than today, and as I explained in my blog cost, it's declining even more.

stpaultim, (edited )
@stpaultim@fosstodon.org avatar

@jurgenhaas @ruby @ultimike

"And the cost for owning a Drupal site has never been lover than today."

I haven't heard anyone else claim this. Maybe the cost of owning a symphonic site is lower than it has been, but are you really suggesting that it was more expensive to own a Drupal 7 site than it is to own a Drupal 10 site today?

That doesn't sound right to me.

jurgenhaas,
@jurgenhaas@fosstodon.org avatar

@stpaultim @ruby @ultimike @symfonystation

Yes, I'm certain about that statement, here are some factors:

  • Building a new site with comprehensive functionality is done in less than 30 minutes
  • Updates, tests, deployments can be fully automated for zero cost
  • Test coverage of core is commendable which dramatically increases code quality and reduces regressions
  • Contrib modules are so mature these days, far less issues

All that is still possible on shared (=cheap) hosting.

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