elliots, to random
@elliots@sfba.social avatar

San Francisco: New Study Recommends Trolleybus Expansion - Urban Transport Magazine
https://www.urban-transport-magazine.com/en/san-francisco-new-study-recommends-trolleybus-expansion/

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@elliots I will happily tell any city they should have more for less than half of the fee of whatever studies they're considering.

paultk, to Canada
@paultk@mastodon.social avatar

Oh look, an article written by someone who backs the Canadian Oil industry. Of course electric car mandates will fail. Ignore all the countries where this has worked succefully. Nothing to see here. #corporateGreed #canada #environment #electricvehicles #electriccars
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-electric-vehicle-sales-canada-government-mandates/

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@paultk @notjustbikes
Tho stuff like making bus lines is relatively easy and doesn't require much of a setup except marking bus stops, putting up posts, and getting buses and divers...

is the key - Ideally using as this will reduce the amount of hazardously mined, energy-consumingly refined and unfair traded minerals needed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9EARKvCTc

BinChicken, to Hydrogen
@BinChicken@rants.au avatar

Victoria warned against ‘very inefficient’ hydrogen buses after trial announced
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/nov/24/victoria-warned-against-very-very-inefficient-hydrogen-buses-after-trial-announced
Cambridge professor says grey hydrogen buses are expensive, ‘destructive’ and not a true zero-emissions solution

To put it politely, this is greenwashing. To put it impolitely, calling these busses "green" or "zero emission" is a whopper of a lie.

If you read about these busses at the company's website, they're very careful not to reveal the source ("colour") of the hydrogen. https://www.transitsystems.com.au/hydrogen-bus-new
They're using grey hydrogen. "Grey" Hydrogen is not Zero Emission. It's made by extracting hydrogen from fossil gas, and there's no effort put into capturing the carbon during the processing.

These busses are just as polluting — considerably more polluting when you consider inefficiencies and losses due to processing, transport, and storage — as a bus powered by any other fossil fuel, but the pollution happens at a processing plant far away. The pollution is out of sight; out of mind.

#Greenwashing #ZeroEmission #ZeroEmissions #Hydrogen #HydrogenBus #PublicTransport #Environment #VicPol #AusPol

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@BinChicken There is no "zero emission" transportation on ruber wheels, since they'll inevitably emit particles from their brakes and microplastics from their tires whilst accellerating and decellerating.

That being said, hydrogen is a waste product of the fossil fuel industry and would otherwise get burned off via the safety fire...

Not to mention that the same "pollution out of sight" also applies to -electric vehicles.

So and are better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9EARKvCTc

enobacon, to climate
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar
enobacon, to transit
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

"Universal makes fiscal sense. The report notes that for every fare dollar Metro collects, Metro spends $0.75 on the expenses of collecting & enforcing fares." 💸

US agencies that must scale 5-10x to meet CO2/GHG emission reduction goals in the next decade need to learn how to run + create a sustainable funding source that can deliver that level of service, not nickle & dime riders while play-acting as a business. 🚎

https://la.streetsblog.org/2023/05/11/new-report-makes-case-for-universal-fareless-transit-at-metro

enobacon, to random
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

If you have in a tunnel that's already wired, I hope your electric battery buses are going to have trolley poles?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd81dRe_CS0

enobacon, to random
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

considering changing my handle to 😄🚎 for halloween

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr4EZwZbxwQ

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

conquering the hills of west coast cities in the US, catch up (ted is always with the wheelsucking)

https://youtu.be/pCtf2F4s2dE

enobacon, to transit
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

“Why are vastly Superior to Battery Electric Buses!” for building a sustainable future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9EARKvCTc

scottsthoughts, to random
@scottsthoughts@better.boston avatar

Start of a thought: the reason why cars succeeded and trains failed in the US is because railroad rights of way were privately held and the private companies had to maintain track in addition to operating trains. Whereas the auto industry got the government to publicly fund the major roadways. Just like the airlines have the benefit of a federal national airspace system.

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@scottsthoughts In how many cities did the auto industry need to dismantle the streetcar systems before inter-city travel by was untenable due to lack of in your destination city? Bonus question: how many electric and miles of overhead wiring can we run for the cost of one mile of freeway widening?

rail, to random

all urban planning experts should be queers by law

that will solve all of public transportation and car dependency issues

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar
mathewthomas, to trams
@mathewthomas@mstdn.social avatar

Do you wish we could see #trams in #Chennai again soon?!

When tram lines were ubiquitous in old Madras Trams were the cheapest mode of transport till mid 20th century In February 1895, the first tram ran between “Power Station, Egmore and Pachaiyappa’s College with two slight halts on the road in 12 minutes”.
On April 11, 1953, the Madras Tramway Company closed officially; leaving 1,650 workers jobless.
https://thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/when-tram-lines-were-ubiquitous-in-old-madras/article67204418.ece#:~:text=In%20February%201895%2C%20the%20first,a%20fraction%20of%20a%20mile%E2%80%9D.

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@mathewthomas I think #India really needs #accessible and #affordable #MassTransit since #traffic is already unbearable and getting cars or even scooters for a billion people is not a viable option...

Even #Trolleybuses with dedicaded lanes would be a major upgrade...

lunareclipse, to random

I hate buses

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@natty @lunareclipse personally I like as they allow -Style efficient transport even if your Geography has too narrow and steep hills to lay down tracks - regardless if dedicaded or embedded in the road surface...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9EARKvCTc

Like in :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybuses_in_Solingen

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