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NicoleCRust, to writing
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First book revisions. Tips?

(Academic press) book pre-publication reviews are back. Really positive. YES!!!!!!!!!!!! ๐ŸŽ‰โ€‹๐ŸŽ‰โ€‹๐ŸŽ‰โ€‹.

So now I'm moving onto final revisions. It feels good to slip back into that headspace again.

My big question for anyone who has sent a book off to the world: What was your strategy for those last steps? There's addressing the feedback, of course. But after that? It will never been perfect. But it has to be great. How do you know when to let it go?

dsmith,
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@NicoleCRust

During my own book revision process, an issue came to light.

Early in my teaching career, I found it paid off to treat all Ss as gifted regardless of the class make-up. Iโ€™d gather and tickle and motivate all Ss by enriching content, pursuing teachable moments, noting factoids and connections during instruction, etc.

Those are not always good practices when writing a book!

Do you have communication foibles/strengths that deserve attention as you shape and polish your manuscript?

WorldImagining, to cognition French
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Looking for articles, or any kind of studies, passages, chapters on the evolution in the meaning of the words "cognitive" and "cognition." There is an older meaning that, to me, seems not to be used anymore, something along the lines of "cognitive content" being content that has an empirical basis..?

Much appreciated if anyone has any suggestions for pursuing this line of inquiry ๐Ÿ™

@cognition @cogsci

dsmith,
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@WorldImagining @cognition @cogsci

This won't likely prove to be much help, but I'm sure I've read that Ulric Neisser's textbook title "Cognitive Psychology" circa 1967 was the first usage of that term.

jeffgreene, to ukteachers
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dsmith,
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@jeffgreene @edutooters @psychology @academicchatter

A couple suggestions that arenโ€™t perfect workarounds but can reduce the issue you identify:

โ€ฆWhen assessing support needs in terms of cog abilities or academic aptitudes, the use of age vs. grade norms will more likely support an appropriate decision.

โ€ฆYounger vs. older Ss show greater variability on most measures, and so besides using multiple measures for Gifted ID, impose a higher cog ability cut-off score for primary-aged Ss.

NicoleCRust, to random
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Sometimes I think that maybe (just maybe) I write well ...

Then I encounter someone who writes REALLY well (sometimes a revising my own text).

Sigh ... focusing on the delta can be hard. But inspiring and motivating too.

The deeper I get into it, the more I realize: writing (compelling nonfiction) is an art form.

dsmith,
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@NicoleCRust

Nicely said.
I think you're a darn good writer, Ms. Rust.

jeffgreene, to ukteachers
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Do studentsโ€™ academic goal motivations change over time, and if so, how? Find out, here: https://bemusings.ghost.io/why-educators-should-support-students/

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dsmith,
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@jeffgreene @edutooters @psychology @academicchatter

"...all educators would do well to create mastery-focused classroom goal structures, to push all students in a more positive direction. Perhaps the only person a student should focus upon out-performing is who the student was yesterday."

๐Ÿ‘

jeffgreene, to academicchatter
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Was recently reminded of this fun little explainer: What is ? https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/8qka4ampllxfrvp29x3aq/apa-video.mov?rlkey=s49r4j99tioe5s9yk0rthd9w3&dl=0

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jeffgreene, to ukteachers
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Thereโ€™s been a lot of hubbub lately about the role of knowledge in reading instruction. What exactly do people mean when they say โ€œknowledge mattersโ€ - what kinds of knowledge are we talking about? Drs. McCarthy and McNamara have a great way to think about knowledge and text comprehension. Check it out: https://soundcloud.com/user-883650452/dr-kathryn-soo-mccarthy-dr-danielle-mcnamara


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dsmith,
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@jeffgreene @edutooters @psychology @academicchatter

Superb! The framework is a true step forward, and you asked some excellent questions, Jeff.

I'm interested in how context constraints transform all else to generate meaning and a new kind of operating knowledge as soon as we begin to read.

Also see attached re accuracy, specificity, and the progressive ed question, โ€œMust reading comp tie only to the authorโ€™s intended meaning or may the reader legitimately bring his/her own meaning?โ€

dsmith,
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@jeffgreene @edutooters @psychology @academicchatter

Looking forward to this, many thanks!
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dsmith,
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@jeffgreene @edutooters @psychology @academicchatter

Super interesting... Thank you for sharing.

jeffgreene, to ukteachers
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How well does universal design for learning align to learning theory, and where is their work to be done? Find out in this new article by Zhang et al, including yours truly. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10648-024-09860-7


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dsmith,
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@jeffgreene @edutooters @psychology @academicchatter

Gosh, I would love to read this work but it's behind a paywall.

stevenray, to Futurology
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'When we listen to music, some neurons hear the notes of a melody, while others anticipate which notes will be next.'

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2024/02/427116/to-appreciate-music-human-brain-listens-and-learns-to-predict

dsmith,
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@CubeRootOfTrue @stevenray

Opinion: The well-observed regularities you mention are subject to individual diffs.

Generally, โ€œhomologousโ€ areas across hemispheres tend to disaggregate concurrent processing so that tracked features can offer a contrasted perspective and predictively support one another... for obvious functional advantages. I am a hard-core finger-&-toe tapper and Iโ€™ve noticed it is very rare that any one of my tapping hands, fingers, or feet will mirror anotherโ€ฆ

dsmith,
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@CubeRootOfTrue @stevenray

One hand might tap 2x the other and 4x my right foot, each serving to nest & mutually support the others. Detail: right-foot tracks bass drum, left-hand tracks top hat, right-hand overlays in free-style to track melody.

Built-in constraints limit what one limb can do when certain others are working, eg., my left-hand struggles to irregularly tap when my right-hand is in any way busy. But a trained piano player would probably not experience that issue the way I doโ€ฆ

WorldImagining, to random French
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I dunno, I've been combing back through the G7 2021 photos this morning and I'm starting to think #Biden made an honest mistake...

dsmith,
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@WorldImagining @cogsci @cognition @neuroscience

Nicely explained.

I wonder if the activated set widens/generalizes with age -- again due to the failure of inhibition which, even at this micro level, requires an energy expenditure.

But we also know these confusion errors implicate phonological as well as semantic memory processing, and we note that both "Mitterand" and "Macron" begin with the same phoneme and end with a similar syllable.

dsmith,
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@WorldImagining @cogsci @cognition @neuroscience

Interesting!

One more connection re Biden's confusion...

Besides semantic and acoustic factors, prosody can also play a role. Like most classroom Ts, I sometimes confused the names of students when I had a lot on my mind (not a memory issue -- it's excellent). I noticed I was much more likely to confuse names with the same # of syllables. While Mitterand is one more syllable than Macron, it rolls out in fluent speech like a 2-syllable word.

ninokadic, to Cognition
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What's your position regarding consciousness? Broad physicalism (we'll have a scientific explanation one day) or broad anti-physicalism (science can't give a complete account)? Or something else?

Please repost after voting, I'm genuinely curious! ๐Ÿค”

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dsmith,
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@ninokadic @philosophy @philosophyofmind

On bigger questions like "What is consciousness?" I think itโ€™s a safe bet that advancing neuroscience will radically re-define the knowns, the theories, the outstanding Qs.

Someone should take a qualitative look at how groundbreaking labs in the last 25 years have collaborated amongst themselves. How do they bounce ideas? How do they speculate creatively/effectively? What do they sketch on their whiteboards?

NicoleCRust, to random
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Worst word (pronunciation)?

My vote: Colonel = โ€œker-nalโ€. How does one justify the ghost R to anyone?

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/why-colonel-pronounced-r-and-more-questions-our-readers-180953036/

dsmith,
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@NicoleCRust

Is it a contraction to eliminate a gymnastic tongue movement?

jeffgreene, to ukteachers
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dsmith,
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@jeffgreene @edutooters @psychology

I recently wrote about this and only a few nights ago enjoyed a dinner-party conversation on the topic. Where active learning is concerned, I think we tend to get overly focussed on only choice/autonomy and relationships. We underestimate the foundational need for a baseline of structure to provide each student with the clarity, safety, and confidence boundaries necessary for learner autonomy to pay off within an active setting.

dsmith,
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@jeffgreene @edutooters @psychology

Yes, that's right on, I agree.

To be clear on my own suggestion, I think the baseline of structure has to do as much with motivation-initiative, regulating challenge, and assignment navigation as with behaviour and discipline.

Also, Csikszentmihalyi's ideas on "flow" have much to say on all this. He really gets a lot of things right, e.g., his views on the need for a challenge-skills match fit well with mainstream ideas re learners as self-regulators.

jeffgreene, to ukteachers
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dsmith,
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@jeffgreene @edutooters @psychology

Autonomy support deserves increased attention from researchers and practitioners alike. Theory is ready to move now.

NicoleCRust, (edited ) to random
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As The Transmitter rolls out, don't hold back those comments!

I just left one thanking @analog_ashley Ashley Juavinett for an excellent article on how to teach the Churchland et al (2012) article โ€œNeural population dynamics during reaching".

It's all there: context; rough bits; options. She even provides a Google Colab notebook. Wow!

https://www.thetransmitter.org/systems-neuroscience/how-to-teach-this-paper-neural-population-dynamics-during-reaching-by-churchland-cunningham-et-al-2012-3/

dsmith,
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@NicoleCRust @analog_ashley

From Krishna Shenoyโ€™s 2013 talk (1:03:51 mark):

โ€œI donโ€™t know scientifically what to do with one neuron anymore because of these challenges we're running in terms of relating it... Itโ€™s about looking at populations of neurons and how they relate. This isnโ€™t representational bashing, at all. Itโ€™s simply that the data donโ€™t largely get captured by that type of perspective. We see far more neurons doing idiosyncratic things than we see doing the canonical things.โ€

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dsmith,
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@FantasticalEconomics @dragfyre @edutooters

But itโ€™s not the same mistake.

The concern with Wikipedia: Ss wouldnโ€™t apply critical thinking regarding the info quality of user-generated content.

The concern with AI: access to a higher grade of better-disguised plagiarism. Ss can generate products without applying critical or creative thinking anywhere in their process.

There's nothing broken about how educators assess student thinking. The biggest challenge: ensuring Ss are actually thinking.

MolemanPeter, to random
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... no amount of investigation of another personโ€™ s neural processes by means of fMRI will allow us to inspect his reasoning or what he is thinking.

Bennett, M. R.; Hacker, P. M. S.. Philosophical Foundations of Neuroscience (p. 107). Wiley. Kindle Edition.

dsmith,
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@NicoleCRust @knutson_brain @tdverstynen @MolemanPeter

It does make for a fun thought experiment.

A device that could translate measured brain recordings of verbal thinking would need to be trainable and person-specific, like speech-to-text software.

Technologically, a first step might be applying ourselves to deduce what someone is saying by translating brain activity. That might prove much easier.

dsmith,
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@knutson_brain @MolemanPeter @NicoleCRust @tdverstynen @kordinglab

I may have read about this one on Mastadon earlier this yearโ€ฆ Stanford brain-computer interface โ€œallow users to type by imagining themselves speaking.โ€ The assistive device makes intracortical measurements in ventral premotor cortex and Broca's area via implanted sensors.

https://www.infoq.com/news/2023/02/stanford-brain-computer/

Both motor involvement and cross-referencing recordings in "distal" networks were no doubt an assist.

dsmith,
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@knutson_brain @MolemanPeter @NicoleCRust @tdverstynen @kordinglab

But the tremendous individual differences that we see in even tightly defined functions means the device can only work on a per-individual basis... once trained.

And Peter makes a good point about context -- that is, context would introduce error. I once knew a 7 yo who printed his name perfectly several times a day in his own classroom, but his efforts in any other room of the school were shockingly illegible.

dsmith,
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@NicoleCRust @debivort @MolemanPeter @knutson_brain @beneuroscience @kordinglab @tdverstynen

We grow up inferring contiguity and causality on the basis of our experience, vocab, meaning-making.

I think context implies there are no starts or stops. States and behaviours continually unfold. I may set a goal ahead of time to hit the next pitch out of the park, but my action plan is continuously evolving under review as the ball spins toward me. At what point did action selection occur?

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