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Pretty much the conservative argument against civil rights in a single panel. To be clear, I don’t think anyone is interested in “ruling” those poor stooges of the republican grift machine, but I think nothing scares them more than the idea of black folks (or women, or “the gays”) in positions of equality or authority.

They fear that their own transgressions will be revisited upon them. That they might actually reap what they have sown.

octopus_ink,

Stockholm Syndrome is the only explanation I can come up with at this point.

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WHO is asking for AI chatbots/assistants to be in everything they use? WHO?

This feels like 3D TV all over again - where the industry tried relentlessly to convince us all we wanted it for a few years, to a collective “meh.”

octopus_ink,

I am one of the “tech savvy people” and I appreciate the future that machine learning and generative AI can help us usher in, regardless of whether my understanding at the detail level is imperfect. I don’t want it forecefully integrated into anything I use really, and I certainly don’t want it forcefully integrated into everything, especially (glances at headline) to the detriment of other aspects of human life and happiness. I want it available to me as a discrete tool when needed.

While I respect the reality that others may have different desires than I do, I remain skeptical that a large number of consumers literally want it to be on every damn thing like angry birds, to the point where its usage needs to be heavily factored into the environmental impact of corporations.

If that’s somehow a stepping stone period of development that we must pass through to get to the good stuff, then I hope they (in the field generally, not specifically MS) are turning all that horsepower to coming up with innovative climate-positive measures that we are capable of implementing as a near-term goal.

A GOP Texas school board member campaigned against schools indoctrinating kids. Then she read the curriculum. (www.texastribune.org)

Weeks after winning a school board seat in her deeply red Texas county, Courtney Gore immersed herself in the district’s curriculum, spending her nights and weekends poring over hundreds of pages of lesson plans that she had fanned out on the coffee table in her living room and even across her bed. She was searching for...

octopus_ink,

They and she will vote exactly the same the next time around anyway, so it really doesn’t matter if they learn the truth or not.

octopus_ink, (edited )

They are the party of taking things away. It’s literally the core of any legislation or policy positions which come from their party. The fact that they claim to be against government interference in the lives of citizens or fiscal responsibility are laughable details at this point. Even states’ rights are something they believe in only when it suits them.

They are the party of hypocrisy and regression, and all their most visible leaders are a laughingstock to the world.

octopus_ink,

I do feel like states rights gets trotted out as needed, if not as often as in the past. Isn’t it their primary non-religious defense for overturning Roe?. Otherwise, I think you have a point. I suppose I don’t hear those sorts of claims often like I used to.

octopus_ink,

Same, but in reverse.

octopus_ink,

Whew, you made a great rebuttal to something that someone somewhere said probably, but not this comic.

octopus_ink,

I had to suffer and die with cancer, so no one else should get a cure either!

octopus_ink,

😂

octopus_ink,

I really want to like Ska, and I really like nearly the entirety of this album, but whenever I try to branch out from there I come up dry with anything I really enjoy.

octopus_ink,

Yes unpopular, but your final sentence indicates a deep lack of understanding regarding the origins, purpose, and breadth of the genre.

You are welcome to your opinion, and I’m 100% sure that no one coming in like that is going to look any deeper. I’m just sharing my opinion that yours is uninformed and superficial.

octopus_ink, (edited )

a lot of hip-hop that essentially glorified a lot of horrible traits was just what a lot of old, rich white dudes figured would make them money.

Arrested Development touches on that in at least a few of their recent songs. This is one that immediately springs to mind, but there are others:

Full lyrics here

Song here

do i have to tell you how this industry goes down

they wanna promote us as the lowest things around

stereotypical images of blacks all around

police beat us to the ground

do i have to tell you how this industry goes down

promote the thugs with the criminal sound

stereotypical images and white supremacist images of us never innocent it kills

kills, snitches and witnesses

i guess the business is exploit us sexually

but keep us intellectually primitive

sedate the sensitive

nullifying all their initiative

to ever unify, just relying on representatives

our english is now seen as this, opposite of geniuses

the truth is meaningless

they deliberately been deceiving us

Edit: Realized the lyrics site had a couple words wrong.

octopus_ink, (edited )

Well thank you for the response, which I admit I expected to not exist or to be rude. 🙂

I’m willing to listen and learn about it all I just don’t think it’ll change my outlook on how it’s effected everyone everywhere negatively.

I wasn’t going to push this on you, but this 4-part documentary literally takes the exact opposite stance and is a documentary regarding the formation and evolution of hip-hop. You don’t owe me anything, but if you are legit interested…

I believe it’s available on at least a couple different streaming services, as well as on the high seas.

www.imdb.com/title/tt21872984/

Having watched it myself, please resist the temptation to skip around if you do give it a shot. There’s a through-line that will be less apparent if you watch it all chopped up, or skip past certain sections.

I just think it’s been glorified to the point people who have no experience with ghetto culture outside of rap music start acting like they thugs n shit. Like “gangster” shit started happening everywhere with a shitload of people fully embracing not only the visual look but the “hustler” “gangster” lifestyle.

This very thing is discussed at one point, FWIW. 🙂

And you know maybe I’m wrong and I’m just upset things aren’t changing the way I want them to.

I’m about the whitest looking person you could imagine, and I’m in my mid-late 50s. I grew up with a good dose of privilege, but (fortunately?) was thrust into situations through early to mid adulthood that forced me to step outside my comfort zone quite a bit. I look like I should be walking around with a maga hat and intimidating voters with my open-carry firearms, not pseudo-anonymously trying to convince a stranger to give hip hop another chance.

A lot of things haven’t progressed the way I expected them to, either, and I am very familiar with how easy it is to misjudge things that are not within your lived experience.

Hip-Hop is a mirror of what is, not the progenitor of the nation’s problems. It sometimes looks like the progenitor to folks who haven’t previously experienced some of what it reflects in their own daily lives though, I think.

Personally, the only place I’m hearing voices raised about the issues I care about in modern music (and this could be my own narrow view) is within the subgenre of “conscious hip hop.”

octopus_ink,

the upper class do not want a culture based on anti-authoritianism to emerge.

Truth.

octopus_ink,

You should look into conscious hip hop. Plenty of that kind of music still being made.

octopus_ink,

I’ve had a hard time getting into Aesop Rock, but he comes up so often I should try again.

I have enjoyed most Busdriver that I’ve heard, but I admit I often have to look up his lyrics to understand them, and it’s probably discouraged me from exploring his catalog more than I have. My fave that I’ve heard of his is Much, partially because he slows it down a bit.

Digable Planets - I only knew them for The Rebirth of Slick for decades. Took a deeper look a couple years ago and was blown away. They are high on my list now. Love their sound. Good recommendation there!

I’ve got to also recommend Brother Ali.

octopus_ink, (edited )

I don’t like music I can’t relate to and I can’t relate to most rap songs. I’m not out here thuggin or poppin caps, doing drugs and fuckin removed. I don’t even really want to do those things. So that erases almost half the damn genre out the gate.

I promise I’m not trying to spam you with stuff!

With that specific criticism in mind, I listen to what I listen to because of the lyrics for the most part, and I’m not into those things either. Here are some examples I’d recommend.

Some folks don’t like Atmosphere’s style much, but I’m recommending these to you because of their lyrics, specifically. (Personally I think these are both bangers though.)

(If you have them, put on some nice headphones. Esp for Brother Ali.)

A couple from Atmosphere:

Okay

Let me know what you want

Brother Ali has a couple that really speak to me too:

Can’t Take That Away

Uncle Sam Goddamn

I am not trying to make you “like” Rap, FYI. Folks like what they like.

I’m just trying to open a path to show you that how you described it in your prior comment does not describe most hip hop - even if it describes most hip hop you have heard. 🙂

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