Like many, when the recent defederation went down, I decided to create a couple other logins and see what the wider fediverse has had to say about it....
@Cipher I think of it more of an instructional issue specifically rather than learning issue. People explain "it's like email" but fail to deliver the fact that it should be more like "It's how the internet should work". Where people think Lemmy is THE SITE and can communicate with kbin THE SITE.
It should be mentioned that if anyone has built a website, that Lemmy is the software. You install Google Chrome on your computer, you install lemmy on your computer. You are now able to ACCESS all the other websites like you would in Chrome.
People think "oh it's like email, well I know Gmail is pretty good so I'll make an account there. Whatever decisions Google makes is by extension my decision." The average user doesn't know what email actually is. They don't know that you can make your own email service. They don't know you can even just buy a domain and have your own email address.
The only thing that bugs me about the fediverse as a whole is that these threadiverse concepts shouldn't have communities. If it was implemented as intended, you'd have to make a community by making a new instance. The community should be federated, and then duplicate communities would get individually federated or defederated.
I think the ambiguity of the fediverse is muddied by how each software is trying to implement it. And it's almost hard to incentivize making your own instance.
Not everyone is a programmer with programmer knowledge making programmer money.
That's true, but then we run back in to the problem of what I saw in early kbin days (before Reddit influx) thinking that there should be many instances all having unlimited communities. But this is basically duplicating communities that are now visible thousands of times. There should at least be a theme/community to each instance and have micro-communities in that.
My example would be current-day forums. There are "instances" for just about everything. Most of the time when I buy a new car/motorcycle I join whatever forum site made for that specific vehicle. So that's what I was thinking when I think it's feasible to make fediverse instances of current sites. Mainly just make federation features the de-facto standard so people can subscribe to their conversations.
I've already seen how Wordpress can federate with a plugin, and every blog post is like any other post. Forums can be similar depending on their backend software the site is running.
It’s another day, so here’s another entry in the endless “Twitter is slowly becoming an empty husk” conversation. A judge just evicted the company from its Boulder, Colorado office after three months of unpaid rent, totaling over $75,000, as originally reported by TechCrunch. This all started after the landlord took the...
I loved seeing the regional subreddits and sharing news and events and just sharing things people that may want to visit the location to see what is up....
heya! this is one of my first posts on the internet where i'm not "masking," or giving myself the stipulations of maintaining a specific public image....
@sockpuppetzelda I'm a similar type of person and have posted more "randomly" or "freely" on the fediverse than EVER. So I've made more comments here than you'd ever see elsewhere. This helped me branch out and even try being a mod for a few things! I've never felt "in charge" or important enough to make an effort on the web and this has definitely helped me.
I hope you chat with more and more people and find some joy here! Heck, make an autistic Magazine or something similar to chat with more and more people with similar backgrounds. Everything is new here and the more activity the better!
Welcome to freedom. Be yourself! Just don't DOX yourself! lol
@BreadDog Myself and @moar_salt created r/kbin and it hasn't been banned yet. Check it out and spread the word! I deleted my moderator account to it but can assist where needed.
Right now the user count Lemmys is comparatively tiny when held up against reddit - but the user count isn't the thing that makes a social media site, it's the engagement...
@bitsplease Hey all, I want you to think of this as rebooting the internet. YOU are the starter now. This whole fediverse concept is relatively new to a lot of people, but can make a whole lot of new websites be like what the internet was supposed to be. Please, be the forefront, be the internet you want to see. You can't lurk because without you, WE won't see anything. Content may be made by others, but you obsorb it and can pass it on. Just like gossip around the office, you have to be the one to help spread it otherwise there is no tea at the end of the day. This brought me out of my lurking shell. I've commented everywhere I even see! Join us! Share us! Be a part of this whole shift in the newest "generation" of internet!
@alyaza Congrats on the growth! I have been trying to find a space that was not a centralized site for years now... Pretty much since COVID started. Rather than needing a community, I needed a method that I could contact people from 1 source, no matter what service they used. Now I get both! I can have people message me as long as they are on the fediverse in some way or another and, like you, am thankful all these companies are dropping nukes on themselves so I can convince people to join these other sites and message me there.
I hope things keep heading this way and more and more people start to understand the depth of the fediverse and more and more success stories can emerge like yours!
@Bicyclejohn you can check out fediverse.party for the proper software you might like. As mentioned, Friendica is one, writefreely is another, and there is also jointhefediverse.net that has a good comparison list of if you liked "X" then you'll probably like "Y".
I've found Cloudflare is cheaper than Google Domains, and allows for more flexibility of setups. A $12 domain on google can be $9 or less on Cloudflare. (this is a per-year price. So the cheaper you get the domain, will exponentially be cheaper over 10+ years)
Cloudflare is also a layer of protection to your pihole. You shouldn't run in to that many issues by buying a domain but I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Just buying a domain is like buying a username, it doesn't do much until you point it somewhere. So if you're pointing it to your pi-hole to host something then I'd look in to hosting services to save yourself a bit of a security issue.
Ah okay, then yeah for sure I'd say there is really no difference between them besides price and convenience of redirecting your DNS. You can always transfer where it's registered later as well depending on if they charge fees or not.
Commenting from kbin. I actually feel kbin is a more reddit-like site and beginner friendly. and I love that we can interact from different sites.
I am more of a forum-type user and not a microblogger, so I liked that aspect of it all. I dislike Mastodon because of the "shout to the void" style that people post on there. I like a site that has sub-communities that all aggregate into a front-page, but this is a little different as I subscribe to individual sites rather than a moderated community within a monopolated site like Reddit.
So rather than a Reddit alternative, I actually like it as a re-thought forum. I've also enjoyed the culture of the fediverse of "we're not here to attack everything you say" so I've felt more open to comment rather than lurk.
@lens_r Welcome, welcome!!! That's good feedback for the developers as kbin.pub states this is still in beta and still has room for improvement. But I've loved it so far as well and is my "main" fediverse instance.
@eonity Never feel like age matters. The average person changes careers 4 or 5 times before retirement. It's never too late to follow your passions and everyone will welcome you no matter how old! Plus, 36 isn't old. You'll probably make a lot of friends and maybe even some other 30-somethings will be in the same boat.
Mastodon-the-software is used by far by the most people on fedi. The biggest instance, mastodon.social, is home to over 200.000 active accounts as of this writing. This is roughly 1/10th of the whole Fediverse, on a single instance. Worse, Mastodon-the-software is often identified as the whole social network, obscuring the fact...
@baronvonj I'd like to jump in saying that there is also kbin https://kbin.social as an additional alternative, as so many people flooded lemmy that their servers overloaded. Come join smaller instances that also use lemmy/kbin!
Dispelling the myth of a universal "Lemmy" community, and discussion of what the fediverse really is
Like many, when the recent defederation went down, I decided to create a couple other logins and see what the wider fediverse has had to say about it....
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It’s another day, so here’s another entry in the endless “Twitter is slowly becoming an empty husk” conversation. A judge just evicted the company from its Boulder, Colorado office after three months of unpaid rent, totaling over $75,000, as originally reported by TechCrunch. This all started after the landlord took the...
Welcome, m/SpaceForce, and r/SpaceForce refugees!
Those here probably know, we work #SempreSoon, but I couldn't wait to jump from Reddit....
Welcome! m/Colorado
I loved seeing the regional subreddits and sharing news and events and just sharing things people that may want to visit the location to see what is up....
trying to enjoy the internet again?
heya! this is one of my first posts on the internet where i'm not "masking," or giving myself the stipulations of maintaining a specific public image....
/r/kbinMigration created.... and quickly banned by reddit
I took a quick look while it was up and it was just a user guide, similar to the lemmymigration subreddit
Do your part, try not to lurk!
Right now the user count Lemmys is comparatively tiny when held up against reddit - but the user count isn't the thing that makes a social media site, it's the engagement...
Welcome reddit refugees!
how are yall feeling about the website?
community is something we generally take for granted, but there is incredible beauty in watching a community finally take flight
lightly adapted from a cohost post i recently made:...
Are there any Fediverse Marketplaces?
The only thing keeping me to Facebook is the Marketplace. I have a replacement to Instagram, Twitter, and even Reddit now....
What do you think (this person's) username means, without looking it up?
I don't mean my username! Yours!...
looking to branch out anything you can recommend?
All I need is a fediverse site that:...
Where do you recommend to buy a domain name?
I was looking into hover, namecheap, and google domains....
what brought you to Lemmy?
I'm just another reddit refugee to be honest
Mastodon monoculture problem (rys.io)
Mastodon-the-software is used by far by the most people on fedi. The biggest instance, mastodon.social, is home to over 200.000 active accounts as of this writing. This is roughly 1/10th of the whole Fediverse, on a single instance. Worse, Mastodon-the-software is often identified as the whole social network, obscuring the fact...