That's very cool. We often had intermissions in longer movies when I was a kid, and funny little intermission animations about all the delicious treats for sale in the lobby. I miss that - it was part of the fun of movies.
Highly doubt this "story" for many reasons. It's funny these things always happen in "other" countries so you can't easily verify how true they are. I was a student at the U. of Utah for 6 years (4 years undergrad and 2 grad) and although I was out as a gay person, I never needed glory holes for any reason. Though, ironically, the bathroom at one of the major halls is still listed in a local gay guide as a "place to visit." Personally I've known many gay men and not many of them have ever actually used or wanted to use a glory hole. And think about it - is having glory holes so men can get their rocks off really such a bad thing? I mean, you get your rocks off, no questions asked, no one gets pregnant, no woman has to be subjected to any mistreatement by a horny male student - I'm not sure I see a downside.
Careful about picking up bats, they often are carriers of rabies and other diseases, even if they aren't sick themselves. And rabies can be transmitted just by touching them, even if the bat is dead when you pick it up. At least wear gloves for protection, but it's best to just not handle them at all.
That IS true, your point about the problem of mental illness not necessarily accounting for everything. I wouldn't say it accounts for nothing, because in many such cases it DOES play a role. Look at this situation, we're finding out the shooter did have mental health struggles, and WAS in psychiatric facility for a few weeks. True that doesn't necessarily mean, he's going to go kill people, nor am I saying that having mental struggles means you're going to go kill people.
But the revenge notion is perhaps the most chilling justification I can think of for wanting to murder another human. No matter the humiliation or depravity you've endured - you don't balance any "scales of justice" by going out and committing revenge.
In fact all you do is make twice the misery and twice the horror that already existed. And you've literally become the monster that you were hunting down, or worse. Which is why I never could agree that there is any "moral" lesson in Dexter or in Tales from the Crypt episodes.
But I do agree with you totally that mental illness does not always explain excessive violence. I appreciate your feedback on this!!
No I don't believe people kill because they desire to, although to be absolutely honest - some people do. The neighbor of this shooter was explaining on the news yesterady, about how people already knew to "steer clear of this guy." He'd drive around with bloody deer carcasses hanging out of truck, laughing about it. I truly believe some men hunt purely because they love to kill animals.
I also agree that working at a slaughterhouse, or for that matter, a morgue or any other place where you encounter grisly circumstances does NOT take being mentally ill - in fact, I'd say it probably takes a much tougher and stronger mentality than normal to work in such a place.
As for the car problem - I'm saying that cars are designed with safety features because car manufacturers knew people would get into accidents. They're not designed to be deadly, but people misuse them by driving while drunk or high, and speeding and not paying attention. That to me isn't necessarily mental illness, but it sure as heck is immature irresponsibility that may speak to other mental health issues going on.
Also, I'm not trying to conflate mental illness with immorality. I'm not saying people with mental health issues are all killers, either. I've had mental health problems with work stress, and I freely admit it. I got myself some great counseling, and found a better path in life.
But I still assert that it IS abnormal (mentally) to desire to see people get killed, kids, or adults, or otherwise. I truly believe a sound mind and a mature, well-adusted mind, finds such an idea repulsive and unthinkable. I know I could never live with myself if I killed another person, even if it was in self-defense. Anyway - maybe that's just me, and I hope others are as morally repulsed by killing as I am.
Just some thoughts. I do appreciate your feedback!!
Well I disagree about the government calling on police to willfully murder you for any old reason. I've been around seven decades now, and I've never seen such an incidence. Yes I've seen many instances of police brutality, but I've also seen thousands more incidences of people brandishing weapons and acting like crazed hyenas on a rampage. I don't believe getting shot by police in that situation is the same thing as murdering just for fun.
And I agree with you, hate is everywhere in America and in fact, throughout the world. It does start early in life, and it gets amplified in school. I myself was a victim of intense physical bullying that left one of my hands broken and useless. But, I never was so corrupted by my hatred that I talked myself into the delusion that it justifies going after someone and KILLING them over it!! I understood even from an early age that two wrongs do not make a right, they only bring two more wrongs into the world.
And again I don't want to conflate mental illness with violence. I've had some issues and I've worked through them, so I know that help for mental problems is out there, and it's good and as healing as any medicine for the body could ever be.
Ok those are just some thoughts, I appreciate your feedback, it was very interesting!!
The reason I feel that manslaughter (and let's face it, it's really cold blooded murder) with a machine gun is a result of mental illness is because, in every case where we've seen it happen, the killers themselves have posted or left behind indications suggesting they were suffering from mental problems and emotional difficulties for quite awhile.
All I'm trying to say (and maybe I could have been clearer) is that, it's abnormal to have a desire to go get a machine gun and shoot people up. I would hope that is a truth that is both universal and easily understood. If not, we're in big trouble as a society.
But - i do appreciate your comments and I appreciate the feedback!
If fucked up thoughts doesn't equal mental illness, what does it equal? I mean I see your point, but if you don't classify fucked up thoughts as thoughts that are fucked up - then what are they? To me, that is in fact what mental illness is. Most people with mental problems aren't acting out or acting weird or waving an ax around while frothing at the mouth - in fact, most humans DO have some mental problems and they usually manifest in neurotic behaviors (like habitual smoking or drug use).
That's not to say such behaviors mean you are a lunatic about to go on a rampage. Only that, it could be very beneficial to seek some professional help and try to get on a better path in life, one where your thoughts aren't so fucked up.
So yes, I am suggesting that having bad or fucked up thoughts, might be a good sign that you could use some therapy, and that's not a put down, an insult, or anything but a suggestion for helping to take better care of yourself. That's all I'm saying.
Hate/bullying/political or religious indoctrination DOES NOT MAKE IT OKAY TO COMMIT MURDER for any reason. FOR ANY REASON. I"m well aware how irrational human beings are, each and every one - but to just excuse violence because some people are indocrinated into it - to me, that's very horrible reasoning. And I'm just going to leave this conversation here.
The only reason I did is because people always reply, "well cars are deadly too and nobody is trying to ban THEM." And my point is, cars are not designed to be deadly, in fact, they're designed with safety features specifically to avoid that happening. Yes they get misused by people who are drunk or going too fast and not paying attention - so why would you give someone who could carelessly turn a non-deadly object into a deadly one, access to a GUN???
Good points, and I think there were many people along the way who could have flagged him and made sure he was monitored, especially since the guy had spent six weeks in a mental facility, and was living in a compound of gun hoarders, and had family who knew he was going through mental problems.
I know, and I knew this kind of background would emerge for him. All of these things SHOULD have been enough to restrict his access to firearms. But, on top of all this, he was living in a family "compound" (according to one neighbor) with family members who were known "gun nuts." (his words not mine). It seems like he as an accident just waiting to happen, and no one cared enough to intervene.
That feels true when goverment's response is simply, "give your hopes and prayers." That all sounds good, but does nothing to solve the problem - the next mass shooting is just days away, and possibly will even make this halloween one of the deadliest in history.
Well that sounds alarming, but in Mexico they do have armed police everywhere and the citizens actually feel safer. I don't wish for a dystopian "big brother" world either, but with so many mental people abusing their gun rights and killing others, that is looking more and more like a not so implausible possibility. Frankly, I'd rather have police armed and everywhere than most lay people running around, pulling a gun every time someone looks at them funny or gives the them wrong order at McDonalds.
To arm more police people, that is. Not ordinary people. Most people in the world have some degree of mental instability, and humans are too quick-tempered and unable to control their impulses. I do not want such people armed with guns at all.
And it's also a country full of corruption. Make no mistake, American poltiicians are EVERY BIT as corrupt as any third-world politician has ever been. The NRA lines their pockets with money soaked in the brains and blood of children, so of course they look the other way whenever this kind of shooting happens. They get paid millions a year to look the other way. And if I'm honest, I'd probably do so also. I'm only human, and very corruptable.
It's like the poem "Fire and Ice." "Some say the world will end in fire, and some say ice. From what I know of men's desire, I hold with those who favor fire...." And from what I know of humankind's willingness to escalate conflict, nuclear fire is the mostly likely and probable end of human beings. There will be a burnt planet left behind, and all the scars that show some insufficiently stable form of humanoid life once existed here. And that's how earth will continue on, without us.
That is funny - "the time honored Jewish tradition of atheism." X ). I'm actually more agnostic myself, but my atheist friends think I'm just "hedging my bet" by not committing. It isn't so much that I am on the fence, but rather, that I have always had an unshakable sense that something larger and greater in power (but unknowable to us) IS out there - not sure what to call it, and whether someone calls it god or not, there is a force to be reckoned with that is overarching and shaping the universe, which to me is something that matters.
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