GryphonSK,
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RememberUsAlways,
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thetechtutor,
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@GryphonSK counterpoint: Denying that your movement has a problem being peaceful towards is the language of the victim.

GryphonSK,
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@thetechtutor There are Jews in the movement.

thetechtutor,
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@GryphonSK Some are, yes. But I'm unclear what your point is? If it's that some Jews don't support #Netanyahu, true and add me to that list. If it's that some #Jews want #Israel to mitigate innocent deaths, great and add me to that list as well.

But nearly no Jews are calling for the dissolution of Israel or chanting "From the River to the Sea" or ripping down hostage posters or drawing swastikas on Jewish establishments.

Those are anarchists, "progressives" and anti-semites.

GryphonSK,
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@thetechtutor “Progressives” are against Nazism and antisemitism. Only right-wing propaganda propaganda and projection says otherwise. Personally, I'm against all war, fascism and imperialism.

thetechtutor,
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@GryphonSK

This is demonstrably wrong and easily corrected by reading. There is virulent from both sides of the political spectrum. Perhaps it would shock you to know that this has been the case for many decades. But it shouldn’t.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/02/leftwing-antisemitism-protest-bigotry-palestinians-israel/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-european-lefts-anti-semitism-crisis-is-the-rights-opportunity-ee81b8b1

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/05/margaret-hodge-left-wing-antisemitism-qa-00125285

Three examples.Please do your own research and stop stating your opinion as fact. I’d much prefer to have you as an ally.

GryphonSK,
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@thetechtutor Well that's disillusioning and saddening. I'm sorry. I didn't know what I was stating wasn't fact. It wasn't an opinion, either, but an error. I can only say that I don't consider antisemites true “progressives.” That's an opinion.

Honesty, I'm a very literal person, and the way words change definitions every day in this century is extremely irritating. I don't even know what to call myself anymore.

Properganda,
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GryphonSK,
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@Properganda Hamas and Israel's fascist imperialism both must be stopped. Are you SURE you're ?

Properganda,
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@GryphonSK I’m quite sure. Are you sure you’re not brainwashed by and/or shilling for Islamists?

https://www.samharris.org/blog/campus-protests-antisemitism-and-western-values

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GryphonSK,
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@Properganda I'm against the fascist you just posted the images about and the terrorists. I'm not pro any Abrahamic religion. They're all propaganda. I'm against imperialism and fascists. Did you read the Images you just sent me? They support my position and the protests! Thanks! I'll be reposting those!

Properganda,
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@GryphonSK Are you ok? Does only cultish agreement or else knee jerk hostility give you satisfaction or sooth your anger? Perhaps you should try thinking about how you engage with others & how that’s working out for you.

GryphonSK,
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@Properganda Stereotypical "troll" response noted. Peace.

sfehl,

@GryphonSK Oppressor is a term often used my Marxists. The history of Marxism is red with the blood of those that disagreed.

Radical_EgoCom,
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@sfehl @GryphonSK
I'm not a Marxist, but I'm aware enough of Marxism to understand that Marxism is not inherently violent or oppressive; many Marxist thinkers and activists have advocated for nonviolent means of social change and have opposed oppressive regimes. I suggest you learn more about Marxism so you can have a proper understanding of it.

andytiedye,
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@Radical_EgoCom @sfehl @GryphonSK Other than the works of Marx himself, where should we go to find Marxism that isn't Leninism? Seems like once he got hold of it, Communism just became a new suit for a new Tsar. (Even more so under Stalin, and now Putin is trying to emulate Stalin without even pretending to be Communist)

Should we look at Trotsky?

Radical_EgoCom,
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@andytiedye @sfehl @GryphonSK
Hell no, not Trotsky! Anton Pannekoek, Daniel Guérin, Paul Mattick, Cornelius Castoriadis, Murray Bookchin, Sam Dolgoff, and Maurice Brinton are some notable Libertarian Marxist authors to look into to learn about Marxism. Rosa Luxemburg, while not a Libertarian Marxist, is also a very good author who wrote on Marxism and critiqued the authoritarianism and bureaucracy within the socialist movement of her time.

NotOnMainToday,
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@GryphonSK especially considering how many times we've proven the most violent demonstrators are actually undercovers

nicksalt,
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@NotOnMainToday @GryphonSK yes. Time and time again since the '60's

Properganda,
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@nicksalt @NotOnMainToday @GryphonSK You guys sound exactly like the “peaceful tourists” at the Capitol on 🤡

GryphonSK,
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@Properganda @nicksalt @NotOnMainToday

Beware trolls like "Properganda" pretending to be liberal while echoing pro talking points.

Easy rule: If someone agrees with , they're not to be trusted.

Lats,
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@GryphonSK if a country is truly democratic then nasty policing should eventually be fixed at the ballot box. Countries with serious gerrymanders have serious authoritarian tendencies and it is evident in their suppression of people who they don’t like.

GryphonSK,
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@Lats Shame the isn't an actual democracy.

freequaybuoy,
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@GryphonSK Doublethink

GryphonSK,
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@freequaybuoy Conservative hypocrisy.

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