Welcome to the Open Source Storage Era

qlp,
@qlp@linh.social avatar

Upgrading my TrueNAS Mini X+ from TrueNAS Scale 23.10.2 to 24.04.0 was smooth.

I had to change the location of the node_exporter program from /usr/bin to a new location, which is under a separate dataset I created for local apps (not to be confused with the TrueNAS Scale Applications dataset).

The /usr directory, which is mounted from boot-pool/ROOT/24.04.0/usr, is now mounted as read-only.

#TrueNAS

bengerman,
@bengerman@hachyderm.io avatar

@qlp squinting truenas mini x+
So a real lil' nas x?
(I am so sorry)

qlp,
@qlp@linh.social avatar

@bengerman If only the names of my NAS units were swapped and I misplaced a file on the TrueNAS, then it truely would be "Lost in the Citadel" 😂

vwbusguy,
@vwbusguy@mastodon.online avatar
ikkeT,
@ikkeT@mementomori.social avatar

@vwbusguy @dymaxoid hmmm, need to think about path forward. I'm not keen on debian host, nor having kube on my low power nas. Perhaps some coreos based with podman and cockpit. Well, it's been good ride, thanks for freenas and later ixsystems.

vwbusguy,
@vwbusguy@mastodon.online avatar

@ikkeT @dymaxoid k3s is great if you want a standalone or low resources k8s.

jbzfn,
@jbzfn@mastodon.social avatar

⚠️ TrueNAS CORE 13 is the end of the FreeBSD version | The Register

「 We have no plans for a FreeBSD 14-based TrueNAS at this time, and the 13.1 release will be a longer-lived maintenance train for those who want to continue running on the BSD product before migrating to SCALE later at some later date 」

https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/18/truenas_abandons_freebsd/

alelab,
@alelab@bsd.cafe avatar

Sad news for FreeBSD lovers and TrueNAS users :freebsd_logo:

CORE 13 is the end of the version https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/18/truenas_abandons_freebsd/

bluGill,
bluGill avatar

@alelab I'm not surprised. Now what am I - as a BSD fan supposed to do? (I'm running linux on too many things at home as it is...)

alelab,
@alelab@bsd.cafe avatar

@bluGill I will suggest you to check all products/solutions that can replace this one, and write a pros/cons sheet for each one.
Then you will be able to choose the right product.

ij, German
@ij@nerdculture.de avatar

After watching videos from @tomlawrence and @technotim about I'm still somewhat undecided how to setup my 12-disk server with a mix of old/new disks for a general purpose storage (backup, iSCSI targets for VMs, etc...), but it seems like to have this kind of setup:

sdm: system disk (SATA DOM)

8 or 12 disks as 2-disk mirrors in a pool with NVMe for SLOG and maybe 2 or 4 SSDs for L2ARC, depending on whether I can fit them inside the 2 RU server or if I need to use drive bays for that.

slink,
@slink@fosstodon.org avatar

@ij @tomlawrence @technotim lesser known fact: on , disabling sync writes with sync=disabled is more efficient than using a zil slog, if sync writes are not required, that is, loss of a couple of seconds worth of writes is acceptable.

marcelliotnet,
@marcelliotnet@ravearizona.club avatar

upgraded to 13U6.1 and had to roll back. it broke TheGrandWazoo's ZFS over iSCSI plugin :( https://github.com/TheGrandWazoo/freenas-proxmox

mcfly, German
@mcfly@milliways.social avatar

It think i have more or less decided on the f4-423 NAS as base for a home server.

Thinking about the setup i'd like to run virtual machines in there wher one of them might be

Does TrueNAS support running as virtual machine? Does it make sense? And yes, it means that TrueNAS would not handle the drives.

Other virtual machines should be a backup server, a home automatisation server and probably a monitoring server.

What's your opinion on that?

mcfly,
@mcfly@milliways.social avatar

@madalex Full disk encryption:
I Do like full disk encryption but i don't really see the sense of it in my use case.
When i throw them away they will have seen a 13mm metal drill going through them, usually twice.

Good luck getting data of that drive.

Snapshots: I don't want to waste all of my space with snapshots. I'll just make a daily backup with N+2 days.

mcfly,
@mcfly@milliways.social avatar

@madalex
hardware powerful enough for FDE - Yes, teh cpu needs to support AES-NI

TerraMaster allows you to install your own OS. From what i can see so far i will not touch their stuff.

neimi, German
@neimi@voi.social avatar

🖥 Hab mir ja vor nicht all zu länger Zeit ein hingestellt...

Jetzt würde ich gerne dafür mittels und externer Platte noch ein Backup realisieren.

Ideen wie, mit welcher Software ich das am besten mache?

Achja, Raspi und Platte ist bereits vorhanden und soll daher auch genutzt werden ☝️

🔃 ausdrücklich erwünscht

paco,

So I'm using on and today I noticed that "auto-trim" is turned off on my ZFS pool. "Hmm," I asked myself "what is TRIM on ZFS?"

After a few minutes of searching, I have no idea what TRIMming does. I know a hundred ways to do "it" manually or automatically. But I don't know what it DOES.

So I finally found this presentation from 2019 that pretty well lays out what it is and why it exists. My drives, however, are rotating magnetic drives (just like in Victorian times), so I'm not sure there's any value in TRIMming my ZFS. Thoughts?

gsuberland,
@gsuberland@chaos.social avatar

@paco basically useless on mechanical drives.

if you've got an SSD for L2ARC then trim being enabled on that is useful, but otherwise no point.

c1t, German

Weekend project: upgraded our system with and a RAIDz1 pool from 4 TB to 16 TB. Easy peasy! with ZFS was one of the best choices for our NAS. Combined with it is the best backup solution.

alios, German
@alios@chaos.social avatar

Habt ihr nen entspanntes script für zfs backups (zfs snapshot|zfs send|zfs receive) zur Hand?
Hab jetzt mal plan umgesetzt die Workstation mit nixos auf linux pool umzusetzen und würd einige fs (home etc) gerne ohne viel gefrickel regelmäßig inkrementell in den freebsd zfs pool zwecks backup rüber schieben.

alios,
@alios@chaos.social avatar

@raichoo In etwa genau so :) bei bei kommt dann noch nen ssh in die pipe und alles fine :) thnx

raichoo,
@raichoo@chaos.social avatar

@alios Der @xanderio hatte mal ein deutlich ausgefuchsteres. Ich war da ehrlich gesagt zu faul zu 😹

mhamzahkhan,
@mhamzahkhan@intahnet.co.uk avatar

Question for the people here. I have an ancient SCALE machine which I am renting from my hosting provider. It has a Xeon W3520 (4C/8T @ 2.93GHz), 8GB RAM, 4x3TB spinning rust, in a single pool with two mirrored vdevs.

I'm using this machine as iSCSI backend for my virtualization hosts. It's slow AF. I get extremely poor IOPS. I'm pretty sure it's the disks that are the bottleneck. ... (continued)

voltagex,
@voltagex@aus.social avatar

Scale really is enterprise software!

jpm,
@jpm@aus.social avatar

@voltagex oh no, this reminds me of either Sun’s ILOM or or Mikrotik routers - both are cursed with terrible CLIs

glent,
@glent@aus.social avatar

@jpm @voltagex Once did a product which shipped on Unix with a TCL shell for the user accounts (the client also got a 'maintenance' account with usual Bash access). It worked better than it had any right to.

The major client sent back a series of enhancement requests (scripting, a GUI, a API) which that decision had pretty much forced on us, and so we turned around at low cost. Which lead to a lecture from the product manager about the true purpose of ERs in leaching more cash from the client.

art4857, Polish

Kupię RAM podejrzanej marki, co może pójść nie tak

Może dlatego co tydzień na mam błędy sumy kontrolnej

art4857,

Dobra, chyba 9 przejść powinno wystarczyć żeby stwierdzić że wszystko ok xD

piotrsikora,
@piotrsikora@pol.social avatar

@art4857 z doświadczenia... to jak ram jest uwalony, albo źle ustawiony to wywali się w pierwszych 30 sekundach (max czas na osiągnięcie maksymalnej temperatury)

Tywele,

Sometimes having your own server and hosting stuff yourself can be a real struggle. A few days ago I noticed that all my apps on my TrueNAS server were down and after investigating I noticed that all apps were stuck deploying and my server was at 100% CPU load. Turns out that kubernetes (k3s) is somehow stuck and eating up resources. I even had trouble stopping all my apps and rebooting the system didn't solve the problem (would have been to easy I guess). Well let's see if the ticket I created will be any help.

revengeday,
@revengeday@corteximplant.com avatar

@Tywele Ah, classic :D

carloshr, (edited )
@carloshr@lile.cl avatar

Les presento mi próximo proyecto ñoño: Armar mi propio NAS

Voy a remplazar un Qnap de 2 discos por un sistema armado con 4 discos. Ya tengo el gabinete, fuente de poder, procesador, RAM, SSD (Reciclada de la que cambié en el laptop) y los discos duros los reutilizo del Qnap. Solo falta que me llegue la placa madre.
Voy a utilizar TrueNAS SCALE como sistema operativo.

@tecnologia

natofe,
@natofe@mastodon.com.py avatar

@carloshr @tecnologia ¿raid por software?, y si es asi ¿cual?

richard,

@carloshr al margen. ¿Cuanto te va a costar aprox. construir ese NAS?

nextcloud,
@nextcloud@mastodon.xyz avatar

Nextcloud + TrueNAS SCALE = ❤️

Lawrence Systems shares a lovely guide on installing Nextcloud via SCALE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cxg1mAYtL8

eluc,

@nextcloud Nice I will have a look,after testing TrueNAS for some weekd, primarly for running Nextcloud, I was about to give up and move to unraid. This is maybe a second chance.

qlp,
@qlp@linh.social avatar

As a stan of the IBM Plex family of fonts, I just noticed that the web interface for SCALE (and most likely CORE) uses IBM Plex Sans for --font-family-body

lorddimwit,
@lorddimwit@mastodon.social avatar

@qlp

IBM Plex Mono is the only dotted-zero font I will abide.

qlp,
@qlp@linh.social avatar

I've written up a short (not really) post about my experience of setting up a Mini X+ and using SCALE as my primary home NAS.

Blog Post: Homelab Upgrade: TrueNAS Mini X+

https://blog.linh.social/2023/07/31/homelab-upgrade-truenas-mini-x-plus/

how,

@qlp terrific write-up. thank you for sharing

qlp, (edited )
@qlp@linh.social avatar

I added a new item under the "Setting Up Storage Pools, Datasets, and Pools" section:

One configuration setting I would highly recommend you look into is changing the "ACL Type" set for the datasets that be used for SMB shares from POSIX to SMB/NFSv4. The setting is hidden under the dataset's "Advanced Options". This can resolve an issue where browsing directories in SMB shares in Windows takes much longer than expected.

DrHyde,
@DrHyde@fosstodon.org avatar

I want to buy a pre-built and tested PC for running (specifically ) with sufficient CPU and memory to do several TB of well, with an internal SSD for the OS, an internal SSD or similar for cache, at least 10 front-facing hot-swappable SATA bays, a whatever-the-hell-it-is port so I can add an external box with more drives in the future, from a UK seller. Can any of you recommend anyone?

dereulenspiegel, German
@dereulenspiegel@chaos.social avatar

In case someone wants to use to issue certificates for their server I created a small shell script which can be used as validator script https://github.com/dereulenspiegel/desec_truenas

technotim,
@technotim@mastodon.social avatar

Over the last few weeks while building my new TrueNAS server I learned a lot about ZFS and how to optimize my new NAS for performance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T5wBZOm4hY

asmodai,
@asmodai@mastodon.social avatar

TrueNAS CORE 13 is the end of the FreeBSD version

Bad news from BSD land – the oldest vendor of BSD systems is changing direction away from FreeBSD and toward Linux.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/18/truenas_abandons_freebsd/

governa,
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linuxiac,
@linuxiac@mastodon.social avatar

Expect TrueNAS CORE 13.3 in June '24, based on FreeBSD 13.3, with enhancements in Samba, OpenZFS, SMART, and vital bug/security fixes.
https://linuxiac.com/ixsystems-confirms-ongoing-support-for-both-truenas-core-and-scale/

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