dominiksteiger, German
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Quite an astounding efficacy of air defense, if these numbers are correct. Especially the missiles.

HistoPol,
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@dominiksteiger

(1/2)

What is the source, please?

"Out of about 170 launched by - not a single one of them penetrated the State of , as air force warplanes and our and our allies' air defense systems intercepted dozens of them.
Of the more than 30 cruise missiles launched by Iran - none of the missiles
penetrated Israeli territory. Our intercepted 25 missiles outside
the country's borders
Out of more...

HistoPol,
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@dominiksteiger

(2/2)

...than 120 , a very small number penetrated the
border, while the rest of the missiles were intercepted. This small number fell at an
air force base in and caused minor damage to infrastructure."

dominiksteiger,
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@HistoPol Source is an IDF spokesperson via Guardian live stream. Judging from OSINT commentary on Twitter, the statements seem true.

HistoPol,
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@dominiksteiger

Thank you.

Yes, that's what I've heard, too, in the meantime...only the Mullah Regime claims otherwise (chuckle.)

Lassielmr,
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@HistoPol @dominiksteiger are you forgetting Israel started this? I hold no love for Iran but they too have a right to protect themselves. If Israel responds expect Iran, Yeman, Lebanon and Syria to attack and much more heavily than last night. And only eejits believe a world coming from the IDF or OSINT

HistoPol,
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@Lassielmr

No, I didn't forget, quite the contrary. And I am holding an opinion that isn't mainstream, at least not among Western politicians.

Maybe you didn't see my first thread in this convo?

https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/112268724188700497
@dominiksteiger

dominiksteiger,
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@HistoPol I hope this will serve de-escalation.

dominiksteiger,
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@HistoPol Some other claim:

"Today, Iran 🇮🇷 launched 331 Missiles and Drones at Israel 🇮🇱 and the vast majority were shot down

185/185 or (100%) of Kamikaze Drones
103/110 or (93.6%) of Ballistic Missiles
36/36 or (100%) of Cruise Missiles

Currently, 7 Ballistic Missile impacts have been recorded on Israel"

gimulnautti,
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@dominiksteiger @HistoPol One would think making it obvious that attacks don’t make a difference would do that.

But I think the actual sources for escalation of this conflict lie elsewhere.

For example, it could also be thought that the escalation started with Israel for bombing Iran’s consulate.

I have no love for Iran and I wish for their oppressive regime to swiftly end. But I have even more concern for not following international law.

HistoPol, (edited )
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@gimulnautti

#MiddleEastWar #GeoPol

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I agree.
I'd go even further re/ "de-escalation," though:

The #MullahRegime needs a face-saving "victory" against the aggressor, at least for it's populace.
Telling the world and rubbing it in that "you accomplished nothing" will only anger the Mullah Regime further, as well as a big part of the #Iranian people, against #Israel and the West ("Death to America!")
IDF and Netanyahu Regime: tone it down, better STFU!

...

@dominiksteiger

HistoPol,
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@gimulnautti @dominiksteiger

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...Also, the "ironclad support" must be within the framework of international law: if the Netanyahu Regime clearly is the aggressor or escalates situations beyond any reasonable retaliatory measures (, in ,) it cannot be that the West defends against--reasonable--retaliation.

It is like the nasty small guy on the playground that hits others and then quickly runs away, hiding...

HistoPol, (edited )
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@gimulnautti @dominiksteiger

(3/n)

...behind his big brother.

Yes, 's right to exist must not be questioned and must be defended.
But we all know what happens if "some animals are more equal than others."

The Regime and the IDF personnel must face justice at the ; so must and for its probable act of piracy.

In fact, I am not familiar enough with shipping laws, but just holding the crew of a ship from a nation...

HistoPol,
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@gimulnautti @dominiksteiger

(4/n)

...nation hostage is, IMO, a casus belli. Portugal should consider invoking Article 5.
The mass delivery of drones to causes enormous hardships in the . The West is footing the gigantic financial bill.
Maybe it is time to solve the weapons problems at its root: take ot drone and ballistic missiles factories as a response.

Once it has nuclear warheads, this...

HistoPol,
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@gimulnautti @dominiksteiger

(5/5)

...will not be an option anymore.

//

dominiksteiger,
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@gimulnautti @HistoPol Yes, wherever you assign blame for escalation, this might have been the optimal outcome, since it might deter Israel from responding.

dominiksteiger,
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@gimulnautti @HistoPol This story I haven‘t found the source yet:

„According to the story: "President Biden told Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a call on Saturday that the U.S. will oppose any Israeli counterattack against Iran, a senior White House official told Axios." It says Biden told Netanyahu: "You got a win. Take the win."“

HistoPol,
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@dominiksteiger @gimulnautti

(1/2)

Sounds reasonably true.

However, w/o telling him to desist from further escalation or else...it will not work.

Besides, "Bibi" is the guy who embarrassed mighty Ronald Reagan twice with severe acts of aggression. (Interesting pod last week--paywalled.)
For decades, the US always had his back. He's not going to change now, not in his old age and with his political and legal back against the wall.
I'm ...

HistoPol,
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@dominiksteiger @gimulnautti

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...almost willing to bet.
I've been saying it for months: needs war, if necessary even escalation. As soon as the war is over, he will face criminal charges.

No, he's not a madman, but utterly ruthless and doesn't care about non-Jewish lives at all, and lives only if it serves him politically.

//

gimulnautti,
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@HistoPol @dominiksteiger Yes. Netanyahu is like Berlusconi but with blood instead of titties on his hands. His immunity to trials awaiting him persists only as long as he remains the prime minister.

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