LoamImprovement,

How’s that old quote go again? “The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.”

Hyperreality,

Sounds like a great idea.

Of course, if it's a crime to be homeless, it's also a crime to force or coerce someone into commiting that crime.

I look forward to the officials and landlords responsible to be jailed for each crime they helped commit.

altasshet,

“No, not like that!”

Sam_Bass,

They really love pushing buttons dont they

anachronist,

This is probably the most prescient episode of Star Trek ever: en.wikipedia.org/…/Past_Tense_(Star_Trek%3A_Deep_…

Basically Sisko and friends go back in time to America in 2024, where it’s illegal to be homeless and they get put in an open air prison.

DaSaw,

This seems like a no-brainer to me… though it probably isn’t. Obviously you have a constitutional right to sleep, wherever you can make space for yourself. If these cities and downs don’t want people sleeping outside, they need to provide indoor space for people who haven’t actually committed crimes. We treat our criminals better than we treat our homeless.

melpomenesclevage,

fuck their laws, I think, is the ruling here. just fuck them completely. we do not have a society. your conscience is the only guide.

BigMikeInAustin,

I know this guy who goes to the New York state courthouse everyday to sleep. He doesn’t even try to hide. He does it in an occupied court room during a trial, on tax-paid furniture.

Snapz,

And the dude smells like SHIT.

DarkNightoftheSoul,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

it’s a shame he doesn’t have access to like, a shower or laundry or something.

melpomenesclevage,

sorry no that would be communism. I’m glad you understand.

DarkNightoftheSoul,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

Dangit, communism ruined this, too!

melpomenesclevage,

good, the judge deserves to smell some consequence.

Bluefalcon,

That’s right homeless, you can’t sleep here. Just go home already.

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Belk Riots - September 2024

flicker,

Bell

GrundlButter,

Had to look it up, Jesus that’s a bit too on the nose.

Alright, I need to finally watch Star Trek through and through.

flicker,

Enjoy, friend.

penquin,

So, they won’t help them and won’t let them be on the streets? Man, homeless folks need to learn to levitate then, so they can sleep in the air instead.

Buelldozer,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

It’s not “sleeping outdoors” that is at issue here, it’s the long term encampments in public spaces and how to deal with them.

Lemmygradwontallowme,
@Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net avatar

It’s not your existence that’s the issue, my friend, it’s the fact you exist in the same Earth as me…

hamas-red-triangle

smuglord

PoopDelivery,

It is sleeping outdoors. There is no mention of it only applying to long term encampments.

TeddyKila,
Default_Defect,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

If these things are gonna be so big to the rest of us when they’re posted, they really should have a lot more detail.

galoisghost,
@galoisghost@aussie.zone avatar

Given these people have nowhere to go why not set aside some public land that allows long term encampments or maybe if it’s a concern about the safety of these encampments, the government could acquire an empty office building and retrofit it with modest accommodations for these peoples.

Or you could just admit it’s not about helping these people it’s about making them go away.

Buelldozer,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

Those are both reasonable solutions and I’m not arguing against them. I just pointed out that this fight isn’t about banning homeless people from sleeping outside. It’s more nuanced than that.

DirtyPair,
@DirtyPair@hexbear.net avatar
Maoo,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

Oh no poor people existing where I can see them!? Better dehumanize em

fox,

Oh easy, give them indoor housing

aaaaaaadjsf,
@aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net avatar

Okay then, why is the solution of making sleeping outdoors illegal bring debated by the highest court in the land? Why is the supreme court of the US even entertaining such an unethical proposition? Doing so is just the US abdicating responsibility for it’s people, and intensifying and welcoming inequality. Why not debate starting housing programmes for people instead, so that people do not have to sleep outside in the first place?

micnd90,

hey it’s illegal to be poor, stop being poor m’kay, just stop

Shanedino,

Would these people rather homeless people break into places and sleeping inside? This seems like the only plausible alternative.

Soup,

Of course they would. Homeless people aren’t criminals and they can’t make being homeless a crime, per se, so they just do as much as they can to drive them towards crimes. It’ll be safer to avoid being caught if they break in and can be hidden but if they do get caught it’ll be horrendous. They’ll put them in slave camps-I’m sorry, “jails” and away we go.

It is the most heinous shit imaginable and these broken monsters get off to it.

huginn,

I mean vagrancy is increasingly being criminalized directly.

dustyData,

Watch closely as they make providing shelter illegal as well (just like they made providing food illegal). The cruelty is the point.

DdCno1,

In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread.

- Anatole France

wombat,

we may have to start making excuses for the lack of terror

HeChomk,

Something something, sanctuary districts, something something, Bell Riots. Almost on schedule. WW3 next, then first contact.

dustyData,

Unfortunately, due to a budget restriction, first contact has been canceled. Please accept our apology in the form of nuclear winter.

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