currentbias, to H5N1
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"On 24 April, the USDA mandated testing of lactating dairy cows prior to their movement between states, and reporting of positive influenza A test results in livestock."

This is why I'm going so hard on . When the air is left out of the conversation, nothing gets done to stop non-lactating cows -- you know, the ones that still have lungs, and can breathe -- from continuing to spread airborne

This is just theater (again)

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-01416-7

currentbias, to random
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The sheer amount of people who stopped wearing masks as soon as they were optional demonstrates how many people never understood why they were wearing them in the first place, which is a tremendous and ongoing failure of institutional public health

currentbias, to random
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Sometimes people talk like it's obvious to everyone that the is airborne, but I have never seen -- in a pretty liberal area of the US -- a doctor in a respirator mask during flu season in my life (and I'm 32)

A 2013 study using non-respirator surgical masks -- so this is undoubtedly an underestimate -- still concluded that half out of 782 A transmissions in Hong Kong and Bangkok households happened this way:

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2922

trendless, to random

R0

c.2022, elizabeth emerson designs Covid with R3 (The R was approximately 2.4 initially but it rapidly increased so we will use R3) Day 1: 1 Day 5: 3 Day 10: 9 Day 15: 27 This is a simplistic explanation of how the original Covid variant spread. At day 15 a single infected person would be responsible for 27 infections. Approximately 21mil people caught Covid in 2020 in the US. Of that 385,000 people died. The mortality rate was an average 1.8%.15 TIMES as lethal as the flu. So instead of needing 833 people with the flu to see one death, you only needed 55 people catching Covid to get 1 death. It would take about 18 days to see that death starting with this single infection. Meaning if you were unmasked & infected YOU killed someone in 18 days.
c.2022, elizabeth emerson designs Covid with R12 (Covid-19 variant BA2) Day 1: 1 Day 5: 12 Day 10: 144 Day 15: 1728 This is a simple explanation of how quickly Covid variant BA2 is spreading. At day 15 a single infected person would be responsible for 1,728 Covid cases. Day 20? That single person could infect 20,736 others! Let's look at the MORTALITY rate. Estimates vary, so I averaged the numbers to 0.5% mortality. Oh that's great! It's way less than 1.8%. So instead of needing 55 people with Covid original to see one death, you need 200 people catching Covid-BA2 to get 1 death. That's better right? Wrong. It would take about 18 days to see a death with the original Covid, but because BA2 is SO CONTAGIOUS it would only take 11 days! Now let's say only 10% of those infected get severe Long Covid. You disabled 173 people forever at day 15 & 2,074 by day 20.

currentbias, to random
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3 things to remember:

  1. it only takes 5 amino acid substitutions to produce an H5N1 that is mammal-to-mammal airborne

  2. it took the WHO 2 years to admit SARSCoV2 was airborne, and 4 years to integrate that admission into public guidance

  3. influenza viruses evolved to spread through the air, and airborne pathogens make the best superspreaders, no matter how much RNA they find in milk

benroyce, to random
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Those of us of a certain age remember when used to be a thing of crunchy hippies. Much like nonsense as well.

Of course, the antivax crowd are mostly types nowadays, and, guess what? MAGA recently went gaga over raw milk.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/03/10/the-alt-right-rebrand-of-raw-milk-00145625

1/2

currentbias,
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@benroyce

This would be the first time in the history of influenza viruses that foodborne transmission occurred (whereas it is adapted to infect via airways, no matter the animal), and we would expect to see those adaptations reflected in its genome

Who benefits from the denial that ? The same people who benefitted from the denial that

currentbias, to H5N1
@currentbias@open-source-eschaton.net avatar

The USDA is doubling down on mythical milkborne spread:

"The USDA said cows shed the virus in milk at high concentrations, so anything that comes in contact with unpasteurized milk may spread the disease. Respiratory transmission is not considered a primary way for the virus to spread in cattle, the department added."

No explanation given. Flu is a milkborne pathogen now. Total fucking clownshow

https://www.yahoo.com/news/usda-confirms-cow-cow-transmission-183050781.html

jmcrookston, to H5N1
@jmcrookston@mastodon.social avatar

Not once does USDA say to wear a respirator to not transmit avian influenza.

Boot covers = yes
Footbath = yes
Disinfectant = yes

But no respirators.

Yee haw.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/vs-hpai-biosecurity.pdf

currentbias, to random
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am under the impression that viruses have never been demonstrated to be foodborne, and this stuff about pasteurizing milk from infected cows sounds like public health theater to calm the plebs

currentbias, to random
@currentbias@open-source-eschaton.net avatar

"What can we do about ?"

I don't know -- maybe all of the shit the prevention community is already doing. But that would be too embarrassing, wouldn't it? Good thing you can't die of embarrassment

jmcrookston, to random
@jmcrookston@mastodon.social avatar

Addleman, Sarah, Victor Leung, Leyla Asadi, Abdu Sharkawy, and Jennifer McDonald. ‘Mitigating Airborne Transmission of SARS-CoV-2’. CMAJ, 1 January 2021.

https://doi.org/10.1503/cmaj.210830

jmcrookston,
@jmcrookston@mastodon.social avatar

One more. Big names on the issue of air transmission of pathogens.

Editorial in Indoor Air, entitled "all respiratory viruses are airborne."

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ina.12937

Tang, Tellier and Yuguo Li are all experts.

Je suis d'accord.



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