deewani, to H5N1
@deewani@mastodon.social avatar

As usual, fantastic summary by Katelyn Jetelina
“No, there are likely no immune benefits from raw milk.And other raw milk rumors addressed.”
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/no-there-are-likely-no-immune-benefits

ThunderHoneySnow, to H5N1
@ThunderHoneySnow@mas.to avatar

First case of human contracting bird flu from a dairy cow confirmed by officials: ‘The virus has jumped’

A Texas dairy farm worker reported feeling sick in late March. Scientists have now confirmed the farmer caught bird flu from a cow.

https://www.thestar.com/news/first-case-of-human-contracting-bird-flu-from-a-dairy-cow-confirmed-by-officials-the/article_ad1055dc-12b7-11ef-add0-e782fe0897e8.html

ai6yr, to H5N1
kakape, to H5N1
@kakape@mas.to avatar

With latest update from @USDA the total number of herds affected in the outbreak in the US is 49 herds in 9 states (without widespread testing mind you…)
8 of the last 12 confirmations are from herds in Michigan

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/livestock

ai6yr, to H5N1

PBS: Raw milk sales spike despite CDC’s warnings of risk associated with bird flu. Raw milk producer: "“Anything that the FDA tells our customers to do, they do the opposite.”
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/raw-milk-sales-spike-despite-cdcs-warnings-of-risk-associated-with-bird-flu

ai6yr, to H5N1
augieray, (edited ) to random
@augieray@mastodon.social avatar

Many cautious are posting endlessly about H5N1. I am not going to follow them down the rabbit hole. Avian flu may or may not become a human-to-human pandemic, but...

  1. I continue to believe we're ignoring the immediate and real risk we face with COVID

  2. We don't help mental health by constantly promoting POTENTIAL risks

  3. If it becomes a pandemic, we'll know

  4. If morons want to drink unpasteurized milk and risk death, blindness and illness, I am powerless to stop them, anyway.

samohTmaS,

@augieray #COVID #H5N1 #FLU
Augie, for professionals and well informed 'amateurs' I disagree.

For the public, for certain parts of the population, Monkeypox is an immediate and very real hazard, and a threat for many others.

For the public H5N1 is something to be quite aware of, but playing it up as a huge hazard now is questionable.

However, as we have learned from other flu strains, it is only a matter of time until H5N1 gains human transmission. And given its lethality at >50% -warning!

brittanytrang, to Health
@brittanytrang@newsie.social avatar

I need an entire streaming series of Nick Florko buying illegal stuff!!

"I'm on my way to what feels like the world’s weirdest drug deal," he writes.

The stuff he picked up (in the driveway of a $1.5M home outside of DC)?

Raw , which the will tell you not to drink but won't stop people from selling to you

More at @STAT
https://www.statnews.com/2024/05/15/bird-flu-raw-milk-fda-loophole-lax-enforcement-interstate-ban/

skry, to H5N1
@skry@mastodon.social avatar

“Cats suffer brain infections, blindness, death after drinking raw milk” https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/concerning-spread-of-bird-flu-from-cows-to-cats-suspected-in-texas/

“Anything that the FDA tells our customers to do, they do the opposite” says a man making money: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/raw-milk-sales-spike-despite-cdcs-warnings-of-risk-associated-with-bird-flu

We have vaccines against various diseases precisely because exposing yourself to live virus is just too risky.

What kind of foolishness would cause a parent to risk their kids, knowing that so many different animals had already died of recently?

br00t4c, to H5N1
@br00t4c@mastodon.social avatar

Scientists call for urgent action on the threat posed by H5N1 avian influenza

#h5n1

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/05/14/gvux-m14.html

dancingdogs, to H5N1
@dancingdogs@forall.social avatar

Not The Onion

The institute's founder, Mark McAfee, told the Los Angeles Times this weekend that his customers are, in fact, specifically requesting raw milk from -infected . According to McAfee, his customers believe, without evidence, that directly drinking high levels of the will give them immunity to the deadly pathogen

https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/05/anti-pasteurization-crowd-reaffirms-love-of-raw-milk-despite-bird-flu-outbreak/

benroyce, to H5N1
@benroyce@mastodon.social avatar

people are aware that #h5n1 is in cow's milk

i made a few posts that #rawmilk is popular with #maga, and this is a possible vector for transmission:

https://mastodon.social/@benroyce/112339025056616724

https://mastodon.social/@benroyce/112301494616847164

it's far worse than that:

https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-05-12/raw-milk-enthusiasts-uncowed-by-bird-flu-risk-in-dairy

"Mark McAfee, founder of Fresno’s Raw Farm and the Raw Milk Institute, said his phone has been ringing off the hook with 'customers asking for H5N1 milk because they want immunity from it.'"

we live in a world with suicide cults of ignorance

augieray, to H5N1
@augieray@mastodon.social avatar

Irony alert: Florida, where leaders think it's great to get #COVID19 to build up your immunity, is taking emergency actions to prevent cattle from being imported with Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza. Apparently, it's healthy for humans to get infections but not for cows. 🙄 #HPAI #H5N1

https://www.fdacs.gov/News-Events/Press-Releases/2024-Press-Releases/Commissioner-Wilton-Simpson-Issues-Updated-Emergency-Rule-to-Further-Protect-Florida-Livestock-from-Highly-Pathogenic-Avian-Influenza

kcarruthers, (edited ) to random
@kcarruthers@mastodon.social avatar

Looks like I’m going to be filling in another box on my 2024 : Raw-milk fans plan to drink up as experts warn of high levels of virus

https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/05/anti-pasteurization-crowd-reaffirms-love-of-raw-milk-despite-bird-flu-outbreak/

br00t4c, to H5N1
@br00t4c@mastodon.social avatar
moira, (edited ) to random
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ai6yr, to H5N1

I'm wondering if/when this is going to happen to either dairy workers or raw milk enthusiasts. If so, duck and cover!

Cats suffer "brain infections, blindness, death after drinking raw milk" filled with H5N1

https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/concerning-spread-of-bird-flu-from-cows-to-cats-suspected-in-texas/

justyourluck, to H5N1
@justyourluck@masto.ai avatar

Has it been proven that one cannot get infected with #H5N1 from non raw milk?

Because last I heard there have been no studies done.

Or am I wrong?

Because...

1/

#BirdFlu #AvianFlu

justyourluck,
@justyourluck@masto.ai avatar

2/

Because on Apr 12, just 10 days after CDC published "Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza A(H5N1) Virus in Animals: Interim Recommendations for Prevention, Monitoring, and Public Health Investigations" that said:

"...should avoid unprotected direct physical contact or close exposure w/sick or dead birds or other animals, carcasses, feces,

milk

or litter from sick birds or other animals potentially infected or confirmed to be infected w/ HPAI A() virus."

...

justyourluck,
@justyourluck@masto.ai avatar
justyourluck,
@justyourluck@masto.ai avatar

4/

The FDA seemed uncertain on Apr 25, a full 13 days AFTER "(raw)" was added to the CDC 's guidance:

"Additional testing is required to determine whether intact pathogen is still present and if it remains infectious"

Ya think??

Now, whether or not it has since been proven, the fact remains, they didn't yet know for sure and then played it down in the guidelines.

I find them all less than trustworthy. YMMV

grumpybozo,
@grumpybozo@toad.social avatar

@justyourluck If 20% of the US milk supply has , then we've already effectively done the study, because we don't have a human pandemic. We would, if it were possible for pasteurized milk to be a significant vector.

Also, we’ve known for decades that pasteurization effectively kills influenza viruses. Pasteurization degrades both the protein capsules protecting viruses and their genetic material. What is in milk after pasteurization are fragments, not whole viruses.

dancingdogs, to H5N1
@dancingdogs@forall.social avatar

“two Texas Tech scientists found that dust blown from feedlots contained antibiotic-resistant bacteria, TCFA allegedly went on the warpath against the scientists, first by urging them not to discuss the research and then by trying to get them fired, Texas Monthly reported”

https://www.texasobserver.org/cafos-panhandle-tceq/

ai6yr, to H5N1

LA Times: Despite H5N1 bird flu outbreaks in dairy cattle, raw milk enthusiasts are uncowed https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-05-12/raw-milk-enthusiasts-uncowed-by-bird-flu-risk-in-dairy

ai6yr,

"Raw milk enthusiasts are doubling down on the claimed benefits and safety of their favorite elixir, and say the government warnings are nothing more than “fearmongering.”" 🙄

ai6yr,

👀 "Mark McAfee, founder of Fresno’s Raw Farm and the Raw Milk Institute, said his phone has been ringing off the hook with “customers asking for H5N1 milk because they want immunity from it.”"

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