fedora, to fedora
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Last batch of sessions for the day! Watch LIVE.

Panel: Upstream collaboration & cooperation in the Enterprise Linux ecosystem: https://sched.co/1Or6Q

Design Clinic with the Community Design Team: https://sched.co/1Or7O

Autotesting in Fedora: https://sched.co/1PSs5

Hands with CoreOS Assembler: https://sched.co/1PbMy

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[Panel: Upstream collaboration & cooperation in the Enterprise Linux ecosystem]

We wanted to make sure this Flock session didn't get lost in the weeds. Primarily focused on upstream collaboration in Fedora, this conversation will be moderated by Project Leader @mattdm with representatives for @almalinux, @centos Stream, RHEL, and @rockylinux.

Watch live at 3:30 PM local time (10:30 AM EDT): https://sched.co/1Or6Q

rockylinux, to RedHat
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Today at : Neil Hanlon, the Rocky Linux Infrastructure Lead, will participate in a roundtable discussion between various communities within the Enterprise Linux ecosystem about how to coexist and potentially collaborate to best benefit the EL community going forward. https://flock2023.sched.com/event/1Or6Q

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Last sessions before lunch break - watch live!

Rocky Linux & the Journey to Secure Boot: https://sched.co/1Or1y

Challenges in reaching Latin American community: https://sched.co/1Or1h

State of Fedora Community Apps & Infra: https://sched.co/1PCOo

fedora, to fedora
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If you're looking to start contributing to @rockylinux, check out their handy guide for how to do so! They have different levels to start at, whether it be participating in forums or joining special interest groups. We appreciate the mentions of Fedora too. :)

➡️ https://wiki.rockylinux.org/contributing/

dschier, to linux
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Linux - What about Red Hat and Open Source?

With the latest changes at Red Hat another wave pushed through the world of Open Source. Finally, the dust has settled a bit. In this article, I want to take a look at these changes, discuss if Red Hat is evil and how we might continue from here.

https://blog.while-true-do.io/linux-what-about-red-hat-and-open-source/

itnewsbot, to opensource
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AlmaLinux says Red Hat source changes won’t kill its RHEL-compatible distro - Enlarge / AlmaLinux lets you build applications that work with Red Hat ... - https://arstechnica.com/?p=1955556

therealjimlove, (edited ) to random

Red Hat vs the open source community is the the subject of my Weekend Edition interview show with my guest Greg Kurtzer from Rocky Linux and a second bonus interview with benny Vasquez from the AlmaLinux OS Foundation.

https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/red-hat-enterprise-linux-and-the-open-source-community-in-conflict-my-interview-with-greg-kurtzner-founder-of-rocky-linux-and-a-special-bonus-interview-see-below/543265

fedora, (edited ) to fedora
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We want to send a special thanks to our friends and platinum level sponsors Red Hat and @rockylinux, as well as to @centos, @almalinux and @opensuse for helping us bring you our Flock contributor conference this year (Aug 2-4)!

Make sure to register!: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/flock-2023-tickets-671047008667

More info: https://flocktofedora.org/

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@cl3mcg @falken @fedora @rockylinux @almalinux @opensuse Support open source and flock away from Red Hat to either openSUSE, Alma Linux, or Rocky Linux.

Upgrade, today!

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🕺 New Changelog & Friends!

Red Hat’s decision to lock down RHEL sources behind a subscription paywall was met with much ire and opened opportunity for Oracle to get a smack in and SUSE to announce a fork with $10 million behind it 🥊

Few RHEL community members have been as publicly irate as @geerlingguy, so we invited him on the show to discuss 💬

🎧 https://changelog.com/friends/7

passthejoe, to linux
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  • vwbusguy,
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    @passthejoe Might also be fun to see when it hits and while we're at it.

    vwbusguy, (edited )
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    @passthejoe @jonathanspw Can confirm! The update has not yet shipped to Stream 9, 9, or 15.

    Congrats to for winning the race to patch ESR first!

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    It's interesting to see how the two distributions which started out to replace are now reacting differently to the recent changes by Red Hat.

    is using the opportunity to free themselves from the shackles of "bug-for-bug compatibility" and are focusing their efforts on ABI compatibility: https://almalinux.org/blog/future-of-almalinux/

    on the other hand is looking for alternative ways to still access the RHEL sources and aims to maintain the 1:1 compatibility: https://rockylinux.org/news/keeping-open-source-open/

    geerlingguy, to random
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    And now SUSE is teaming up with CIQ and forking Enterprise Linux...

    Paired with the Oracle news, maybe Red Hat should be careful what they wish for.

    https://www.suse.com/news/SUSE-Preserves-Choice-in-Enterprise-Linux

    mackaj,
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    @geerlingguy

    So if CIQ is working with SUSE on a new Enterprise Linux, what does that mean for #rockylinux long term? Will Rocky merge with this new venture somewhere down the line? Doesn't make sense for them to duplicate their efforts and compete with themselves.

    bananabob, to linux
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    linuxmagazine, to RedHat
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    passthejoe, to RedHat
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  • chirpbirb,
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    @passthejoe yeah, except isn’t behind a wall. i like having the choice of picking between a more vanilla debian experience or seeing what dippings canonical is providing these days with . and it’s really easy to do so, it’s just a swap between isos with no worry.

    honestly, i hope takes off as its own thing. they have the power to do so and i feel like they could lead in the industry.

    vpv, to RedHat

    Out of curiosity, have people already found out the actual reason for the source code strategy change. It probably isn't Alma or Oracle. So is it the - deal, then? That was suggested in episode 517.

    fossrob,
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    @vpv maybe, but one department getting 3 (THREE) Rocky Linux Advanced Subscriptions past procurement is hardly a + deal... nor does it mean they are going to space. But they will keep saying that :eyeroll:

    https://sam.gov/opp/2e0365ce1e3c4c179b50fb15573d68e4/view

    Screenshot of the statement of work with ALT text attached.

    unixviking, to debian German

    Speaking of Debian: don't misunderstand, Debian is one of the greatest Linux distributions ever! So is the community. But if you are used to everything working out-of-the-box for such a long time, and you have a good dozen computers to look after, then the hours of setting up basic functions after the fact can be very tedious.

    unixviking, to RedHat German

    After the Red Hat disaster and an excursion into the world of Debian - with which I somehow can't quite make friends (now I remember why I left Debian back then) - I'm giving openSUSE Tumbleweed a chance

    jzb, to RedHat
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    Another fairly long post, this time on the early history of RHEL clones. People look at pre-Red Hat CentOS with rose-colored glasses, but the reality was a lot different.

    Updates, pre-Red Hat CentOS, took weeks or months. CentOS was at one point at the mercy of an AWOL project lead.

    Copying RHEL was difficult and clones were very little threat in environments where updates and reliability were mandatory.

    https://dissociatedpress.net/2023/07/03/red-hat-and-the-clone-wars-iii-the-dawn-of-centos/

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    itnewsbot, to RedHat
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    Rocky Strikes Back At Red Hat - The world of Linux has seen some disquiet over recent weeks following the decision... - https://hackaday.com/2023/06/30/rocky-strikes-back-at-red-hat/

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