sanpedropeddler,

They got you talking about Duolingo. That’s why they changed it.

echo64,

Duolingo keeps doing mass layoffs, so the bird is overworked. You can help him out by switching to a language learning app that actually helps you learn a language instead of endlessly throwing flash cards at you without teaching you anything! Win win.

plantedworld,

I’ve been working on my Spanish with practice from some of my coworkers and patients. So far Duolingo’s “flash cards” have actually been pretty helpful, but I grant that some of the actual "instruction"isn’t there. I went from really rudimentary Spanish to being able to conduct a patient evaluation in Spanish as long as it’s straight forward.

Everyone shits on Duo but I’ve found it to be a really helpful practice tool myself.

echo64,

Anything is better than nothing. This is true. But that doesn’t mean you aren’t wasting your time on something that does the bare minimum.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

But I like to see my streak go up🚀🚀🚀

criticon,

What app do you recommend? I’ve seen good progress with duolingo since I upgraded to premium but I’m willing to try something different

Synthuir,

Language Transfer has been highly recommended in the past. I’ve only gotten through two lessons so far, but it seems like a good place to start, at least. It doesn’t have anywhere near as many languages as Duolingo does, though.

Cyberpunk3000,

Busuu is much better. It feels like it actually tries to teach you the language in an efficient way, instead of teaching you useless phrases like “my owl never paints” and waisting your time

criticon, (edited )

I mean Duolingo does not teach you to memorize that phrase. It teaches you the structure of the language and words so you can start making phrases on your own

Edit: didn’t mean to sound to dismissive, I’ll give it a try, thanks for the recommendation

sanpedropeddler,

I would also recommend getting a textbook and using a flash card program like anki to memorize words. Apps like that have an incentive to keep you from ever getting good enough at the language that you might stop using the app. They can be a good tool but they won’t get you where you want to be on their own, especially not in a time efficient manner.

Donkter,

Absolutely wild thing to say. The time it takes for someone to learn a language enough to delete an app, especially an adult is so astronomical that there’s no reason for apps to try and stop you from learning the language.

sanpedropeddler,

I really wouldn’t describe a few years as astronomical. And that’s how long it takes to actually learn a language. You might delete the app a few months into it and switch to other methods if you were actually progressing quickly. The longer you stay on the app, the better chance they have of tricking you into spending money on it. I’m definitely not the first person to notice this. People have been talking about it for years.

vext01,
@vext01@lemmy.sdf.org avatar
lemmy_nightmare,
@lemmy_nightmare@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh, I didn’t know that.

grrgyle,

Makes sense. My partner was showing it to me “see? It’s probably because I’ve got notifications muted” unmutes notifications, “no that isn’t it” then I suggested they complete a lesson to see if it changed and it still didn’t, so she put it away. Later I heard that the app notified her that two of her friends congratulated her for starting to again.

It’s a cute program, but wow does it hector people.

rollingflower,

Changing the Duolingo icon to look sad, old, and wrinkled is a strategy to make users curious, so they open the app to see if there are new updates or content. In other words, Duo is only trying to get your attention.

This tactic is rooted in the psychological effect known as the “novelty effect,” where new stimuli can temporarily increase engagement and motivation. Snapchat similarly employs this strategy with the red dot and yellow dot on the Bitmoji.

AFallingAnvil,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

It just reminded me how long it had been since I’d launched it so I just uninstalled it lmao

kate,

haha I did the same

kaitco,

Yep. I figured this is what had happened and it definitely worked on me. 🙃

KSPAtlas,

Yeah Duolingo uses the novelty effect a lot

Trollivier,

Sooo Duolingo is a tamagochi now

metallic_substance,

God I hate marketing bullshit like this.

GardenVarietyAnxiety,

It’s my fault, y’all. I’m sorry.

I recently started using Duolingo to learn Spanish, and it’s clinically proven I ruin everything I touch, so I think I’m killing the bird…

soggy_kitty,

Can you do the whole world a favour and go to the Kremlin?

Silentiea,

Just rent a Cesna and fly straight there, they don’t stop you.

Xanvial,

Oh, I thought it’s because I stopped opening it daily and broke my streaks lol

madmaurice,
@madmaurice@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I’ve been opening it daily and I thought duo was just tired of my bad Japanese…

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

This is the old duolingo icon

boatsnhos931,

It must feed on the blood of oppressed immigrants trying to learn English or it’s immortality will cease

intensely_human,

Duo has lost all will to live now that his landscape of progress is a single, non-branching path.

Mesa,
@Mesa@programming.dev avatar

It says it right there. He’s 4+ years old.

livus,
livus avatar

Duo está cansado y viejo.

I love how (apart from endless commentary on apples) the main thing it likes to focus on first is all about what trabajo does to you.

A_Chilean_Cyborg,
@A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl avatar

Como hispanohablante nativo, le están dando un cortocircuito a mi cerebro, pierdo mi sentido de la orientación en la internet, derrepente ya no se si estoy en feddit.cl (chile) o en el resto de lemmy.

😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

livus,
livus avatar

Omg! Como un estudiante mal de Español (y solo Duolingo), estoy muy emocionada porque entiendes mis palabras!!! Soy de New Zealand, solo entiendo un poco de tu hablo. Hola y kia ora!

racketlauncher831,

New Zealand

frowns

Nuevo Zelando.

livus,
livus avatar

Lo siento! Nuevo Zelando, gracias!

MonkeMischief,

LOL I’m pretty sure they were joking with you by being hyper-specific. :P Kia ora and awesome job with your learning! :)

Canadian_Cabinet,

¿? Es Nueva Zelanda, femenina

A_Chilean_Cyborg,
@A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl avatar

It is somewhat estrange but definitely understandable, for me, one of the best ways i had to get better at English was to join and be active in English-speaking communities, so probably the same can work with you.

idk what’s “kia ora” tough, is a NZ native thing?

livus,
livus avatar

Yes, it's from the Maori language, but is widely used by everyone. It just means "hi" (literally, have life/health).

I like trying to read the Español but I don't think my understanding is good enough to speak yet!

A_Chilean_Cyborg,
@A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl avatar

El idioma es como un músculo, nunca serás bueno si no lo practicas, apóyate de un motor de traducción si así lo prefieres, pero no llegaras mágicamente o solo con teoría a un buen nivel sin empezar ahora.

livus,
livus avatar

Gracias por esto. Sí, claro, eres cierta!! Soy viejo y mi cabeza no es buena aprender ahora - soy demasiado veijo tiener "músculos idioma" grandes ahora, es verdad! Pero yo estudio para divertido, y intento. Gracias para hables conmigo!

(To be honest I am very surprised at how much I have learned from Duolingo!)

A_Chilean_Cyborg,
@A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl avatar

Un gusto.

Canadian_Cabinet,

Jaja a mí también, es muy inusual ver a otro hispanohablante fuera de feddit.cl o eslemmy.es

reflectedodds,

They change it all the time for funsies

BlackEco,
@BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com avatar

Not just you, it’s the same on Android. Maybe related to April Fools?

JusticeForPorygon,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

Just checked and the last update for Android was on April 3rd. I can’t confirm it but I think this happened.after the first.

kirbowo808,
kirbowo808 avatar

Duolingo became old cuz everyone forgot about them. Tragic ;-;

morgan_423,
@morgan_423@lemmy.world avatar

I’m tired, boss. Tired of bein’ on the the app store, wantin’ to be lonely as an owl in the rain. I’m tired of always havin’ people annoying me, tellin’ me to give them new words. Mostly, I’m tired of people never memorizin’ the vocabulary. I mean, how many times can I give you “Cómo estás?” before you finally remember what it means, Cletus?

There’s too much misremembered - it’s like pieces of glass in my head, all the time, I’ve fed you the entire Spanish lexicon ten times, and you’ve learned three words. Can you understand?

eezeebee,
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

Sorry I don’t understand I-talian

umbraroze,

They recently added some unlockable graphics for the widget. Nothing major.

Guess they changed the icon just for the hell of it while they were at it.

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