tatterdemalion,
@tatterdemalion@programming.dev avatar

Automated underground bike storage

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcZSU40RBrg

Bluebanrigh,

It’d be cool if they had those here but I swear we have enough idiots that would try to get in for shits and giggles and maim themselves

intensely_human,

That’s the premise behind /r/ArchitectureForAdults: architecture that’s dangerous for morons, but safe for everyone else

Potatos_are_not_friends,

We can’t have a lot of things because that 1% is fucking morons.

Everything from clean public bathrooms to high end vending machines.

sfgifz,

Don’t forget privacy in toilet stalls - I’ve seen the huge gaps in doors in the US.

Azal,

US here… it has less to do with the 1% being fucking morons and more to do with the only infrastructure we actually pay any attention to is cars. Sure we’re having a bit of a bicycle revolution but at least in my area the bikes aren’t being used for transport but for fun, but then that’s with a metro that’s sprawling with a city that’s only 100 sq miles smaller than NYC, with 8,000,000 less people in it. Add that the auto companies were allowed to buy out things like the streetcar that was local and able to tear up the tracks to get rid of competition, it really isn’t a shocker.

But we’re now stuck in a cyclical spiral, of no investment for things like this are happening because it’s not seen as profitable enough. Which means a constant problem of using something like a bike for commuting is “But then I have nowhere I can put my bike where it won’t get fucked with.” so people don’t commute with it, which leads to no investment to the infrastructure.

Dunno how to fix it. It just sucks.

qyron,

You could put giant billboards warning for the risk and it would still become a recurring event. Even if it said “warning: this is capable of grinding a human being to pulp”.

Malfeasant,

“Not only will this kill you, but it will hurt like hell the whole time you’re dieing”

qyron,

Where is that sentence from?

Why can’t we have basic, objective, uncomplicated worded warnings like that? Maybe the stupid ratio would drop.

Malfeasant,

I’ve heard of it posted on high voltage electrical panels, but never seen it myself (I’m not an electrician). I don’t know if I got the wording exactly right, but it sounds good.

darkmatterstyx,

New viral challenge…

qyron,

Now you got me seriously depressed.

Bluebanrigh,

Meanwhile, I can’t retrieve my bike because someone’s mangled arm is jamming the main lift.

SkaveRat,

Make it self cleaning. Problem will solve itself after a while

AscendantSquid,

I’d imagine it’s got weight and pressure sensors, so I don’t think a person would get very far. I can definitely see the mechanism getting jammed by garbage or some shit, especially if someone’s trying to jam it.

Bluebanrigh,

Maybe, hopefully? I’d imagine whatever idiotproofing they do won’t be sufficient for the wild.

billwashere,

Why does this remind me of Death Stranding?

derpgon,

We got a few of bike towers on the ground in Czechia. Very neat.

chiu,

Automatic opening doors but they don’t open by a proximity sensor, they open when you press the button. This is the optimal solution as the door doesn’t open needlessly but still allows for ease of access.

Ordering machines, where all your menu options are clearly listed and priced. Pressing on a combo of buttons will print a receipt which you can sit down and show the staff/cook your order.

Water (hot and cold) tapped straight to your dining table for self serve drinks.

Unfortunately becoming less applicable with the smartphone domination finally reaching Japan, but their flip phone technology.

DABDA,
@DABDA@lemmy.world avatar

Automatic opening doors but they don’t open by a proximity sensor, they open when you press the button.

I think it would be cool to have a hybrid system where you can wave/nod/bow to a sensor to activate it, but also implement an open standard frequency that can trigger it so people with reduced mobility can mount a transmitter on a wheelchair/cane etc. or just use their cellphone. Would eliminate having any external equipment that would be exposed to weather or vandalism and is one less common surface for the public to have to touch.

_number8_,

taco bell in particular is embracing the kiosks and it’s wonderful. they have signs in the lobby saying ‘order at the kiosk’ even. and why wouldn’t you? why do people in the US have this pig-like stubbornness where they must have a human stand there and ‘PeRsONaLIze tHE iNtERacTion’ or some shit

Nightwind,

Because I don’t want to be bombarded with ads and “did you consider this offer” shit and take 5 minutes to use some usability nightmare? Because I do not want to touch a greasy screen that 362 people used today without washing their hands after taking a shit? Because I do not support corpo greed that will not rest until every employee has been fired?

“BUt I LiKe tOucHy fLaSHy SCreeNy!!”

What are you, morons?

glarf,

Why should I have to do everything myself when I’m at a commercial establishment? Why is interaction with a human a bad thing? I absolutely hate self checkout for the same reasons. Quality of service is valuable and humans benefit from interaction.

Guntrigger,

“Would you like fries with that?”

“Would you like to supersize that?”

“We have an offer on…”

“Paying by card? Type your pin into that well used machine. Cash? OK hand me the piece of paper that have touched hundreds of hands and maybe nostrils”

KazuyaDarklight,
@KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe my people are bad at their jobs but my fast food people just take the order without any real upsell most of the time. PIN is only for debit. I almost never have to actually touch payment controls these days. NFC tap and away.

KazuyaDarklight,
@KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world avatar

Every US McDonald’s I’ve been to for the last…5+ years has had the kiosk system.

xor,

i just want to pay cash, otherwise i prefer kiosks… but i see a future of hostile, nagging UI design…
like at some stores self checkout, you have to click 80 different confirmations and give your phone number, email and social security number…

chiu,

The auto kiosks in Japan take cash and they are also mechanical and not touch-screen based (at least in most stores). They are tactile buttons. :D

themurphy,

That’s why you have GDPR.

Tippon,

There was an article published last year, maybe the year before, where they tested the touch screen kiosks in McDonald’s. Every single one of them has traces of faeces on it.

Even if that wasn’t true, it takes me significantly less time to tell someone my order than to scroll through however many sub menus the restaurant has decided to put their food into, and then select the options for each item and add it to my basket, then check out.

macrocephalic,

Everything has traces of faeces on it, this fixation on it seems irrational when you put it into context. The burger meat comes from a dead animal that spent it’s life wandering in a field and trampling it’s own shit. The fries come from the root of a plant grown in the dirt. The bun is made from wheat which was probably infested with mice. You yourself are a biological machine that turns food into energy and discards the waste. Your body has a tube filled with faeces right now.

Yes, we try to keep waste separate from food, but the world is not a clean-room.

Guntrigger,

You also have a skeleton inside you. The body is a terrifying place.

rob_t_firefly,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

It’s amazing that there’s still room in there for the two wolves.

Tippon,

All of those things are cleaned before being consumed. The touch screen menus are one of the last things you touch before touching and eating your food.

The world may not be a clean room, but that doesn’t mean that I’m going to deliberately interact with someone else’s faeces, especially when I’m about to eat.

thecrotch,

Hope you’re not touching cash

Tippon,

Strangely enough, you’ve made me realise that I haven’t for a while. Not a deliberate thing, it’s just that everything I’ve bought in person recently has been with a contactless method.

Kid_Thunder,

Doesn't matter. There's feces everywhere. When you smell a bad bathroom, a fart, your own poop it is because it is in the air all around you. You're nose is actually detecting the particles of shit in your nostrils. It is on your clothes, on your skin, on your face, on your hands.

The test used to detect trace amount of feces would likely find feces on door knobs, stove dials, clothes or anything else often touched in your house right now.

Nepenthe,
Nepenthe avatar

Please be one of those people that washes their hands instead of this functioning as some broad, sweeping excuse because "it's already everywhere." I don't know how else fecal matter would be expected to travel to a stove dial.

Kid_Thunder,

I wash my hands all the time. I'm not voluntarily gross. The tests will find trace amounts but if you don't wash your hands after going to the bathroom, you are a gross person passing on loads of bacteria that is exponentially more than the testing will find.

I appreciate the distinction though. There are definitely people that live like that. There used to be a guy at a place I used to work who used to dig in those big trail mix jars people put out sometimes instead of dumping them into something or even dumping them into their hands. Once I was in the bathroom (washing my hands) and saw him leave the stall and just walk straight out. Now I can't see those without thinking about that. I'll never touch those things again.

TAG,
@TAG@lemmy.world avatar

Having to crawl through multiple menus to order is not that big of a deal for restaurants. They don’t value your time, they value their staff time (because they have to pay for it). There is probably very little ongoing cost to double the number of order kiosks while every additional human taking orders needs to be paid minimum wage. The restaurant owner watches with hate as their money slowly melts away while you decide if you want pickles, fried onions, and jalapenos on your burger.

Tippon,

That’s a good point. I could be in the restaurant for an hour trying to order, and as long as there are other kiosks available, it wouldn’t make a difference to them.

frokie,

This is not a good point. This is just a company making us their unpaid employees.

Tippon,

Yes, that’s the point that TAG made. It’s something that I hadn’t considered, and it’s a good point.

The fact that it’s something shitty that businesses do doesn’t affect the fact that TAG made a good point.

shani66,

I didn’t even consider that, America is just filled with ‘people’ who barely even qualify as such. it’s no wonder we can’t have nice things.

Kid_Thunder, (edited )

That's because there's feces on every person all over them. Your nose works because it detects chemicals of something. If you smell feces it is because it is inside of your nose. Feces is in the air. Smell a fart? It's now on you. Bathroom smells like shit? It is in the air around you and on you.

Just about 20 years ago when all those soda fountain dispensers tested always had feces detected on them, it wasn't because some bandit was going around the world smearing shit on them every day, it is because it is always every where.

According to the BBC article that talks about the McDonalds touch screen, they say the same thing.

qyron,

As someone that has to work in very close proximity to feces, smelling it is a good sign. Not smelling it is the alarm bell.

sanguinepar,
@sanguinepar@lemmy.world avatar

If you have to push a button, does it really count as an automatic door?

chiu,

I guess you have a point. What I meant is that it’ll still slide open (like an automatic door does) but you push a button that has a similar feel to a door bell. So, still very accessible and automatic!

sanguinepar,
@sanguinepar@lemmy.world avatar

Oh yeah, I agree, just needless pedantry on my part :-)

Potatos_are_not_friends,
Katana314,

Since I don’t speak Japanese, it was definitely a much preferred setup that made things very simple for me when I visited.

rob_t_firefly,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

Water (hot and cold) tapped straight to your dining table for self serve drinks.

This in particular sounds awesome, speaking as a heavy water drinker who always feels like a bit of a heel having to pester busy wait staff to come over and refill my water glass a bunch of times.

otp,

I love places where you can just get it yourself. Rare here in North America, but all over the place in Korea

MinorLaceration,

I often see buildings in Japan that have a manual sliding door followed by either a push button or proximity automatic door. If I am going to have to open one door myself, I might as well open both. If one is automatic, the other might as well be too.

Zellith,

Automatic opening doors but they don’t open by a proximity sensor, they open when you press the button. This is the optimal solution as the door doesn’t open needlessly but still allows for ease of access.

Ordering machines, where all your menu options are clearly listed and priced. Pressing on a combo of buttons will print a receipt which you can sit down and show the staff/cook your order

I see those all the time over here in my European country.

Fallenwout,

The need to push a button everyone else pushed, is how you get covid :p

anon6789,
@anon6789@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c533ff39-ebd0-407e-a85b-ec803051ac35.jpeg

I work in a pharma research facility, so people can have literally any disease or chemical on their hands, so we have a lot of doors with hand wave sensors.

Just wag your mitts in front of it, and the door opens. They’re on the wall a few steps before the door, so the door is usually open by the time you get to it.

Fallenwout,

I work in a hospital, we use these long vertical elbow buttons or rfid readers with a badge which is also touchless.

And if I need to push a button like in elevators, I use the knuckle of my ring finger.

Some even have this little touch tool on their Keychain to touch screens or buttons.

firipu,

The hot and cold water thing is not common at all. A few sushi places and bars have it. But it’s quite rare tbh.

3rdwrldbathhaus,

It’s kind of a relic of the past now since everyone uses a streaming service of some kind now but right at the end of physical media’s lifespan, Japan had some key advantages over the US specifically because it was legal to rent albums and I believe individual songs, just like a Blockbuster. Eventually they had the music purchasing equivalent of Redbox in the form of kiosks as well with the advent of recordable Net-MD minidiscs, which only really ever saw success in Japan.

OBXDadLife,

If you select the wrong floor on an elevator, you can deactivate it by pressing the button again.

egitalian,

🤯

WhataburgerSr,

Kei trucks that are extremely functional and fuel efficient.

The U.S. won’t ever get that because they are extremely functional and fuel efficient.

GiddyGap,

And they are not manly enough for the very manly men in 'Murica.

nucleative,

They have this crazy machine… Slide paper into it and then a hundred miles away a copy of that paper slides out.

mcqtom,

I feel like sarcasm is a really strong attitude to have about fax machines.

Rednax,

Also used by doctors here in the Netherlands.

Railison,

Not overly high tech but such a good fit for the culture and extremely convenient:

Self-filling, self-warming baths

Put the plug in during the day, press the button to fill the bath at the remote keypad in the kitchen. Baths fills and a little jingle announces that the bath is ready at the perfect temperature.

Blackmist,

Yeah, I’ve got a self filling one. Nice to run a bath without even getting out of bed. Although if you forget to put the plug in first, you’ll arrive to an empty bath.

lanolinoil,
@lanolinoil@lemmy.world avatar

haha why would they make the solenoid for the water running but not for the drain? that’s weak

Misconduct,

I’m so jealous of those deep soaking tubs they have too. SO jealous

negativeyoda,

I recently saw a post where they have slots in bathrooms that clean your phone if you insert it

postmateDumbass,

Dirty dirty phone.

Go use the bathroom hole!

Misconduct,

I really dunno how I feel about inserting my phone into a slot in the bathroom if I’m being totally honest

negativeyoda,

I stick all sorts of things in holes in bathrooms. Keeps things interesting

orphiebaby,

Why were you downvoted? Because they had no sense of humor?

Grass,

90s web design?

fritobugger2017,

Our Japan group’s website is such a complete early 90’s train wreck.

Grass,

The odd time I’ve tried to research something in japanese it always felt like going back in time

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

i miss file

mydude,

Medicare for all

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar
gandalf_der_12te,

cat cafes?

FlorianSimon,

We have one here in Canada and it’s really nothing special

Crikeste,

We have cat cafes in Utah.

TheControlled,

Vending machines with hot drinks like tea and coffee, that also sell cold stuff.

Riven,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Their vending machines are great and reasonably priced. Which is what keeps me from using any here in the US.

fritobugger2017,

And beer.

batmaniam,

Not Japan specifically, but I’ve got say I’m jealous as hell about the snack scene in east Asia.

I generally don’t have a sweet tooth, and things like potato chips don’t have that umami I like. I try to keep snacks around because I forget to eat, but nothing appeals to me. But man… all those pre-packaged tofu squares, various bits of marinated meat… that’s my deal. There’s one solid “Asian Mart” near me, I’ll stock up a few months worth at a time.

Closest you get in the US is basically jerky/slim jims, which are great but expensive and kind of one note for flavor.

jeanofthedead,

7-11 onigiri! The best.

hades,

Plastic wrapping that’s easy to open.

hades, (edited )

Bathroom mirrors that don’t steam up after taking a shower.

Vending machines that are competent at accepting cash. Everywhere else that I’ve been to, you have to smoothen the bill and make sure it has no wrinkles or bended corners, and even then the machine would sometimes give you a hard time. In Japan, you just insert a stack (!) of bills, and the machine will count them within seconds, and also give you change in bills, and not a gazillion of coins.

Gates at the train stations are also better than everywhere else. You don’t have to wait for the person in front of you to pass the gate, you just insert your ticket and go. You also don’t need to look for arrows or notches or whatever on the ticket to insert it correctly.

Electric kettles that are very quiet and keep the water hot for a very long time.

Trains where all seats face the front, so you don’t have to sit against the direction of travel.

Riven,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That reminds me. All of the change machines I had the pleasure of using were very gentle when taking your money. Felt kinda jarring coming back to the US where they fucking jank the money our of your hand the second you insert it.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Trains where all seats face the front, so you have to sit against the direction of travel.

I recently took a ride on a historic restored railroad where they run sightseeing tours on period accurate trains with period engines and coaches from the turn of the century. The trip was an out-and-back, and there is nowhere for the train to turn around before the return journey. Everyone was immensely surprised, then, when the conductor came down the aisle and demonstrated to everyone that the seats in those old coaches are reversible, and you can flip the backrest to the other side so you’re facing the right way regardless of which way the train is going. They’re otherwise 100% symmetrical.

Apparently this arcane technology of the reversible seat has been lost somewhere in the intervening 100 years, never to be discovered again. (In America, anyhow.)

Zink,

Reversible seats sound marginally more expensive to install and maintain. The benefit is to make the customer’s experience better while adding no revenue.

Sounds like some anti-American euro-commie bullshit to me!

supamanc,

Are people really thst bothered about which way they are facing when travelling?

hades,

Probably not. But life is full of minor inconveniences like that, and they do add up.

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