CubitOom,

Just wanted to clarify something here about Canadians… So you put your milk in bags but your vodka goes into milk jugs?

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

you buy milk 4 L at a time?

CubitOom,

No…that would be insane. 1 US gallon is only 3.78541178 liters.

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

surely your milk can’t be that precise

CubitOom,

I just used kagi to search for the conversion, and thought the long decimal was funny.

But now that I think of it, does Canada make it’s own 4 L jugs so they can be accurately advertised or do they just use the US 1 gal jugs and call it a 4 L out of convenience but then write in fine print on the bottom that it’s actually 3.79 L?

Unless that is actually a 4L jug of vodka, couldn’t someone sue for misrepresenting the amount of product being sold?

Someone’s liquid here is probably not precise. And I’m going to guess it’s the one claiming to be a larger volume with an additional manufacturing cost.

CanadaPlus, (edited )

Bagged milk isn’t common in Edmonton, 4L jugs just like this are ubiquitous in Alberta. That’s more of a BC+Ontario+Quebec thing. I can’t remember if the Maritimes do it now.

That being said, I’m not sure if you could store vodka in a bag, with booze being so controlled. I suppose boxed wine is a bag inside.

kent_eh,

Bagged milk isn’t common in Edmonton,

In the last 30+ years it’s only really common in Ontario.

Back in the late 70s it was tested across the country, but only for a few years.

But, apparently, what happens in Toronto means that it must be normal in the entire country, according to the rest of the world…

CanadaPlus,

Ah yes, Toronto, Canada’s largest and only city. /s

Good to know. I’m guessing the information I had about BC was from the late 80’s, but it’s possible it was just that guy’s specific family. I’ll have to ask older people I know if it was ever a thing here.

Interstellar_1,
@Interstellar_1@pawb.social avatar

I haven’t seen bagged milk in BC either

CanadaPlus,

Oh, maybe not then. I only know it was available out there at some point.

Someone,

I have a vague memory of seeing bagged Island Farms milk in one grocery store on Vancouver Island but it would’ve been over 20 years ago. I only ever knew one family that bought it, and they were complete weirdos across the board.

Juice,

I got a terrible hangover just looking at this picture

FrankTheHealer,

Just calculated if this good value.

4L of alcohol like this would be €142.80 in Ireland.

So the price in the picture is actually quite good value lol

CanadaPlus,

You have us beat on beer, but Alberta sure knows how to distill chemicals. And also taxes most things pretty lightly.

This comes out to €34,19 to save everyone a click.

MystikIncarnate,

If you need a cheap 40% ethanol solution for some reason, this is a decent bargain.

I don’t recommend drinking it.

lazylion_ca,

Dozer makes it. It’s good for two things, degreasing engines and killing brain cells.

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar
afox,

Sick reference my dude

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

doesn't alcohol kinda dissolve plastic?

scoobford,

I haven’t had it dissolve plastic per se, but it definitely tastes funky pretty quickly if you’re using the sort not intended to store alcohol.

That being said several popular brands offer plastic versions of their product and it’s basically the same stuff.

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

its one of my things. I will drink the cheapest stuff that still comes in glass and that is my low bar.

scoobford,

Honestly I do the same. Even though the plastic bottles don’t impart flavor, I’m sure they leech something nasty in there.

JohnnyCanuck,
@JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca avatar

Depends on the plastic, but most plastics are fine.

Hand sanitizer usually comes in plastic bottles and can be ethanol or isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. Also you can buy high percentage isopropyl (and sometimes ethanol) at the drugstore in plastic bottles. Also many large bottles of liquor come in clear plastic versions.

I wouldn’t recommend using Plexiglas or acetate though. Alcohol will eat those up.

afox,

Just get a cheap decanter. Problem solved if you’re one to take it slow. But something tells me this isn’t the target audience here.

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Drink faster

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

I know its a joke but one reason I don't drink much is because I have a hard time drinking enough, fast enough, for it to be worth it. I don't like the taste of most alcohol and what I do drink I get sick of fast.

captainlezbian,

Do you not have liquor in plastic bottles? It’s never the good shit, but cheap shit is often in plastic and this is the cheapest shit. As an American I spend about $29ish CAD on 1.5L on dirt cheap local bourbon. Maybe I could get as low as $20 CAD on vodka barely fit for human consumption for 1.5L. But 4L I’m not getting for less than $40 CAD

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

yeah. the plastic is crappy stuff. I won't buy unless its glass myself.

BilboBargains,

I’m using to dissolve all the micro plastic I’ve been eating on the sly

Duamerthrax,

Which plastic? High-density polyethylene or HDPE(Number 2) plastic is rated for most common chemical storage. It’s used for milk and sulfuric acid. It’s also rated for up to water’s boiling temperature.

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

jeez. they should use that in plumbing rather than that stuff you don't want to put over 140f

dejected_warp_core,

Well, everything stored in plastic bottles and containers tastes a little plastic-y to me. But alcohol will dissolve all kinds of things that water can’t, so I’m pretty sure this is much worse.

The thing to consider is: what quality of distillation comes with a package that’s just a little nicer than a plastic bag?

voluble,

Every cheap clear spirit from an AB producer is proofed, or re-distilled 97%abv neutral grain spirit from a factory in Saskatchewan. The neutral grain spirit from Saskatchewan is very high quality, so, actually kind of impossible to fuck up. Some distilleries actually manage to, however.

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

No we get pure ethanol for the lab in plastic bottles

PresidentCamacho,

I was recently in Japan and found a store selling a 4L bottle of Suntory whiskey. I was shocked by it too, thing was fuckin massive.

uis,

A small cup for small family

Got_Bent,

That seems really cheap for Canada. Kinda surprised that packaging is legal too.

DerisionConsulting,

Alberta doesn’t really get involved in alcohol the same way that provinces that care about their population does.

CanadaPlus,

It’s true both that the current government doesn’t give a shit, and we don’t regulate alcohol much, but I’m guessing alcohol use rates are actually not that bad. Stereotypically, anyway, the Maratimes should all drink us under the table.

voluble,

AB government advocacy for local craft producers: Drake no

AB government advocacy for gambling and cannabis: Drake yes

The liquor regulation system in Alberta is prohibitionary already. What changes would you want to see?

DerisionConsulting,

Most provinces have a minimum price for booze, that would be a good start

voluble,

Alberta does have minimum prices for both wholesale as well as on-premise liquor.

DerisionConsulting,

Based on this image, I just assumed that they didn’t.

That jug is 160 units for $50. $0.31 per unit is a little low.

voluble,

Minimum pricing in AB, AFAIK, is regulated on the wholesale price of the product. So, producers are regulated, but retail stores aren’t prevented from competition, loss leaders, stunts, etc., which is what this might be.

Given that the tax money from alcohol/tobacco just goes into provincial and federal slush funds that proportionately end up being funneled into seniors benefits, I don’t believe minimum pricing really addresses the things that people think it does. I’m an advocate of directing alcohol taxes towards the harms it creates. But, try to find a politician who wants to grind that axe. I say this as someone who enjoys a good beverage, & acknowledging the pragmatic importance of offsetting the healthcare costs of alcohol abuse. I don’t believe that simply making a good more expensive is the wisest move on the policy side, if healthcare outcomes are the ultimate target.

Jarix, (edited )

Drake is a Pedo.

Can you please consider using an alternate format like Geordi in the future to make that future a better place

My thanks for your and everyone’s consideration.

Edit: fixedlink. an excellent lemming pointed out i hadnt copied the article i thought i had. Should have been about wrong Pedo named Drake. Apparently theres more than one.

UnrefinedChihuahua,

Aren’t those different Drakes? The article you linked is for some white guy, not the rapper.

Jarix, (edited )

Ahh fack. Thanks. I meant to change the article i copied but didnt copy the correct one. Thanks for being my editor, even if it wasnt your goal!

Much love. Ill go fix it with the correct article about Drake from degrassi and who is also the rapper, and the pedo shit he was caught doing that we know about

Edit for clarity(i hope)

CanadaPlus,

Too many horny musicians named Drake.

UnrefinedChihuahua,

Thanks! I had read the rapper drake articles so I thought I knew what you meant. Now I’ve learned about this other drake and like, wtf, are there no good drakes?

Jarix,

Right? We never had problems when they were just something from dnd!

Son_of_dad,

Trust me Ontario government doesn’t care about its people, they just regulate the hell out of alcohol in order to milk the money. They’re doing the same with gambling

kent_eh,

Trust me Ontario government doesn’t care about its people, they just regulate the hell out of alcohol

But I was promised “buck a beer”…

Son_of_dad,

Folks, folks, folks, folks…

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

I thought I read an article recently that they actually started banning this jug in some places.

Edit: I guess it was a different brand of 4L vodka jug??? …ctvnews.ca/alberta-distillery-to-stop-making-4-l…

CanadaPlus,

And the concern, as far as I can tell, was that it’s too cheap for one of the umpteen ministers, and he felt that’s unfair to other producers. Not the packaging.

hemko,

12.50 per litre??? That’s premium price not value

DerisionConsulting,

Something like Smirnoff is about $30.00 for a 750ml bottle most places in Canada.

Someone,

That sounds about right, I don’t buy much alcohol these days but when I did it would be around $12-15 for a 375ml of most bottom tier spirits. And I don’t remember any getting significantly cheaper/ml by buying a bigger bottle like you’d see with most other products.

Gladaed,

Canada has alcohol taxes I think. Also those ain’t real dollars, but their local variant.

CanadaPlus,

Which actually makes it even cheaper.

voluble,

For the interested, my estimate is that $34.28 of this sticker price is liquor tax.

Federal excise is $13.93 per litre of absolute alcohol. Normally, AB provincial liquor tax is $13.76 per litre of volume, but this 4L is probably self-distributed by an AWP producer. They get reduced rates that scale based on the volume of production. Here, I’d guess it’s something like $3 per litre of volume.

BakerBagel,

Idk where you are getting your vodka, but low value brands in the US (Ohio specifically for me because oir state liquor board controls the proce of all spirits state wide) cost about $12 for a handle. I would agree that this is too expensive for what it is, but premium vodka like Titos or Grey Goose cost $37 for a handle, which is over double the price per liter, and those are USD, not CAD. Admittedly it has been nearly a decade since i was in an LCBO, but i know Canadian alcohol prices are al2ays higher than American ones, which is why you can’t take alcohol north across the boarder.

Jarix,

Will yes and no. The trick is to shop at the duty free stores when you are driving across the border to get US like prices on liqour.

They typically will have the best deals on alcohol in Canada because of the ancient prohibitionist influence on our liquor laws are avoided. Not sure if this loophole has been closed yet though

Sabin10,

You don’t want to know how much that would cost in Ontario

WarmSoda,

Probably a couple weeks in rehab.

Etterra,

I think I just heard Russia abruptly getting rock-fucking-hard.

CanadaPlus,

I don’t know, if there’s any nation that can’t get it up properly at this point, it’s them.

EvilLootbox,
@EvilLootbox@lemmy.world avatar

Perfect format for the shitty bars that fill their call brands with cheap shit!

JasonDJ,

I didn’t even know it came in gallon form.

uis,

It doesn’t come in imperialism form, it is in liberté form.

baggins,

I can only assume when a politician says this is irresponsible that they want the price to be lower?

CanadaPlus,

Nope, higher. 'Cause protectionism, of people I’m sure he’s not involved with in any way. /s

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Gone JUGGIN’

Immersive_Matthew,

Things to do in Edmonton. Jugs of vodka and Mind Bender. Oh wait. Just jugs of Vodka.

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