SyperStronkHero,
SyperStronkHero avatar

It's a great game but there IS a catch that wasn't mentioned.

The devs plan on implementing one of the more intrusive Anti-Cheats (Face It Anti Cheat) which doesn't work on Linux which also stops all Steam Deck users from playing. It also forces you to disable virtualization on windows. I can't recall the last time I had to go into bios to disable an option to turn off important windows features.

According to their stream, it's non-negotiable and will be added regardless of what the community wants. But they did mention that community servers would be able to pick which Anti Cheat they wanted to use?

jerkface,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

Well, fuck. My hopes were raised and then dashed in the span of minutes.

Tokeli,

As someone that uses virtual machines frequently, I look at my like 16 hours in the game. Fuck. I hope they don't do that, this is the Battlefield I've been wanting for years. ;-;

Mummelpuffin,
@Mummelpuffin@beehaw.org avatar

Well, shit. I hope I have under two hours so I can refund it.

MangoPenguin,
@MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You can likely get a refund even over 2 hours for this.

SyperStronkHero,
SyperStronkHero avatar

How would you go about getting the refund if you're over 2hrs?

I've been trying to get one for the last 2 days after the devs announced on their discord and stream they were going back to Face It but I've been repeatedly denied by steam.

NotAPenguin,

They've backed down from faceit for now because of community concern.

SyperStronkHero,
SyperStronkHero avatar

They haven't backed down at all. They're still committed to implementing FaceIt according to the devs in their discord. The only reason it's not implemented now is because of privacy concerns so they're trying to rework it a bit.

theterrasque,

Disable virtualization? Hah right. Yeah, that’s a no go.

Stahlreck,

Well tbf, on most devices it’s usually disabled by default so this is one of the typical “well 99% of our users are unaffected so eat it or go away”. Always kinda dick-ish to do something like this.

Jamie,

From what I read, it also requires Secure Boot to be enabled. I played the game for 90 minutes before reading about the anti-cheat change, fortunately I didn’t hit 2 hours and took a refund.

HER0,
@HER0@beehaw.org avatar

But they did mention that community servers would be able to pick which Anti Cheat they wanted to use?

As I understand, there are three tiers to this:

  • Official servers will use FaceIt exclusively.
  • Servers rented from official partners will have the choice of FaceIt or EAC.
  • Community-run servers will only be able to use EAC, and won't be hooked into the global progression system.

One of the many problems with FaceIt is that the server-side component is not allowed to be freely distributed, which is why community-run servers won't have the option to use it.

Personally, there is no way I am buying this unless if they reverse their plans to use FaceIt.

ultrasquid,
ultrasquid avatar

I considered it, but am now avoiding it because they're going to add a Linux-incompatible anticheat.

quortez,
quortez avatar

I love to see indie games pop off. I hate to see Linux-hostile anti-cheats. C'est a la vie.

wallmenis,
@wallmenis@lemmy.one avatar

Dafaq you are talking about? I see people have no problem running the game with and older version of proton.

Demacish,

The devs plan on implementing a anti-cheat system that makes it incompatible with Linux and virtualization on Windows

Zook3y,

It’s a great game! Runs super smoothly and it’s got a lot of great QoL features. $15 is a steal

jaye,
jaye avatar

Exactly the same sentiment here! It has no business being as good as it is!

NotAPenguin,

There's finally a great battlefield competitor and all anyone here can talk about is Linux..?

MangoPenguin,
@MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I got it and played a bunch with a group over the weekend, it's quite a lot of fun. Lots of chaos and stuff happening, with plenty of room for support roles like ammo and medic if you don't feel like doing anything else. Proximity voice chat is built in and works well too, and is real proximity (ie; enemies can hear you too if nearby). The automatic mic activation for a few seconds when you die can be absolutely hilarious (or disabled if you want).

The graphics are nice and simple which I like, it lets me focus on the game more and not have to deal with FPS drops or performance issues.

Jediotty,

The catch is I cant fuckin play it unless I can get it running in a virtual machine, cuz I'm not dual booting lol

creamyTiramisu,

I’m going to give it a go this week. I was so disappointed with BF2042 - hopefully this scratches the itch.

How possible is it to play primarily in a support role? I’m a terrible shooter but I love healing where possible.

Eelviny,

I'm in the same camp here, generally avoided FPS because my reaction time is similar to a snail. The medic role is super important because you don't heal automatically, and only a medic can heal you. I've had plenty of situations where I'm a medic prone on the ground with bullets flying overhead, reviving and healing a whole squad downed by a well placed enemy grenade. Been an absolute blast, pun intended.

OfficialThunderbolt,

Sounds interesting, but I'll have to wait until they port it to macOS before I buy it.

ozoned,
@ozoned@beehaw.org avatar

I'm not into FPS anymore, but even I thought about picking it up. The substance over style is fine with me, but that core gameplay seems like a rock solid thing. The only thing that has given me pause on picking it up is that they're planning on changing the anti-cheat that isn't Linux friendly and as a Linux user, just gonna wait for now.

uint8_t,

or get it, and be very vocal when they try pulling some bs

ozoned,
@ozoned@beehaw.org avatar

In my experience being vocal about changes doesn't do much. There's a million factors and Linux support is probably at thr bottom of their priority list. Or they've been told be the anticheat it'll be fixed someday, etc. I understand they're a super small team and they have to pick their battles as well.

I'm too tired for that fight/discussion anymore. I'll vote with my wallet. Plus I have a million other games to play.

grey, (edited )
@grey@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Anyone here tried it on a linux box?

pingu,

I tried it on Fedora 37 on my Laptop. But that was a few months ago when it was free and in beta. In general, it runs well even on my non-gpu laptop.

TheAfterman,

Not entirely sure what the hell the article was talking about, there are already bonus editions that give you skins. Same as any other game.

Sterben,

Definitely will look into it.

RecluseGamer,

I've been having a lot of fun with it. Even if I only get a few weeks or months until they add FACEIT, it's worth the $15.

Uriel238,

So there’s a catch after all.

myofficialaccount,

What does that mean and how does it change the game?

Edit: nevermind, someone further down explained already.

smart_boy,

The game itself is a workmanlike Battlefield with a few oddball choices. I hope they never "fix" the vaulting behaviour that lets you break a 20-storey fall and make massive jumps across rooftops.

But I've specifically been having a lot of fun with the proximity chat. Remarkably robust, has an opt-in "broadcast your mic for a few seconds when you die" feature, and somehow isn't a sluice of slurs / edgy crap / etc (at least in my experience).

The anticheat news is really depressing though. Cheaters are out there and will come to this game, and EAC at least has a reputation of being quite weak. We're not allowed to have nice things.

Browning,

The parkour is fun

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