yuriy,

i insist on being in the rotational center of the car.

omfg he bought a fucking go-kart, gotta be

Socsa,

I read this as a stupid person justifying the enormously useless truck they just dropped $70k on. I don’t know what they think “rotational center” means, but I am confident it’s something they heard on YouTube.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe he bought a motorcycle? I figure you’re pretty close to the “rotational center” of most cruisers, for instance.

Either that, or he has a Homermobile…

ApexHunter,

I don’t understand how people like this can exist AND SURVIVE in a society consisting of real, actual people.

ApexHunter,

I need to save this post. Next time I encounter a rabid trump supporter I need to make them read it an explain to them that’s how they come across when talking about trump. It probably won’t work tho…

corship,

Don’t give them any ideas please

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Some people just have such infrequent contact with anyone other than their niche circle of friends/neighbors that they can just kinda keep-on-truckin’ in their frictionless existence until they pancake.

This guy looks like he’s heading for a pancake situation. But its not hard to see why someone who has - by good fortune or cleverness - simply dodged any consequences for their actions thinks they can keep doing it forever.

Mango,

I cannot be such a lunatic if I tried my hardest.

BonesOfTheMoon,

I follow this guy all the time because he’s so bonkers. He ended up evicted and 20k in debt.

whostosay,

I think I saw you recommend law with Mike earlier in another thread, and dear God, I have been trapped since like 4pm (10pm now)

TheFonz,

Ohmygod I wish you hadn’t mentioned this channel. Am binge watching now. There goes my life.

whostosay,

It’s a problem lol

Lennnny,
@Lennnny@lemmy.world avatar

Can we see his rotationally centered car?

BonesOfTheMoon,

I don’t think he has a car at all! He’s now evicted and 20K in debt because of listening to sovcit nonsense.

Pothetato,
@Pothetato@lemmy.world avatar

Hmm yeah sales tax is enough. I wish!

Hikermick,

I miss being young and stupid

JakenVeina,

Im too tall to drive a regular car, there exists zero support for people like me. Zero.

Bitch, I’m 6’10" and fit just fine into every single car we tried out when buying a new one last year. Shut up.

bbuez,

I insist on being in the rotational center of the car.

There’s more to unpack there than we realize, and I for one would like to see this sovereign citizen’s ideal mode of travel

TheTimeKnife,
@TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world avatar

I imagined him in a giant metal rollcage hamsterball

xionzui,

McLaren F1 clearly

Buddahriffic,

My guess is he’s about to pay too much for a shitty McLaren body kit on a civic that won’t move the cockpit to the centre of the vehicle.

Blue_Morpho,
jpreston2005,
falsem,

Yeah, but where do you rotationally exist in the car when that happens? Checkmate statist

Giant,

I’m a bit taller than you at 6’11”, and do have trouble fitting in some cars. I’m in Australia though, so our car market might be a bit different. Small hatchbacks can be a bit hit or miss, family sedans are usually fine, and coupes are the best. The couple of SUVs I’ve tried were a bit small for me weirdly enough. I could drive them, but it wasn’t comfortable. Height distribution can make a big difference to super tall people though. Being the same height, but one person having an extra long torso and the other having extra long legs can lead to very different experiences.

prime_number_314159,

I’m not as tall as you, and I’ve encountered 2 car models I don’t fit comfortably in. Meanwhile, my friend who is average height claims not to fit into most vehicles. I think some people want significant room above their head and past their feet for some reason.

gramathy,

I’m 5’6” and if I were shorter I would definitely struggle to reach the pedals on some cars

CADmonkey,

I have an ex who was 4’-10". There were definitely cars she couldn’t drive.

Asafum,

Vertically challenged gang!

I hate getting work done on the car and getting back in to find the pedals are like 3 feet away… Who worked on this, Chewbacca?? Lol

Socsa,

But how will he signal how tall he is to everyone on Facebook?

dankm,

I’m 6’3", and every car I’ve tried that’s newer than 1970 is just fine. My dad has a old sports car I can’t drive because even with the seat all the way back my leg jams between the steering wheel and the shifter.

AbsoluteChicagoDog,

Gotta respect their commitment to fuck the system if nothing else

CameronDev,

*Get fucked by the system. He ended up evicted and in debt. The system won.

edgemaster72,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

I like how he’s even trying to be cheap about the number of walls it takes to make his apartment.

DonPiano,

He’s well aware that he’s broken the fourth wall in his theatre of the mind.

BonesOfTheMoon,

I like that they must offer him 15K to move out. Because that makes sense.

Buddahriffic,

I mean, if I was renting a place and it only had 3 walls, I might not feel great about paying the rent. And the whole landlord system is pretty bullshit, though I’m not sure what he thinks of the current state of the housing market if he thinks 20k is more than enough.

WoahWoah,

Maybe he lives in a triangle. 🤣

vexikron,

Obligatory wonderful MuneCat video on SovCits, juuuuuust in case you have not seen it:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcxZFmKrxR8

BonesOfTheMoon,

It’s so good.

Nougat,

I see no reason to pay for my current [car], which I rarely drive.

If you borrow money, you have to pay it back, based on the terms of the loan agreement. Whether or not you make use of the Thing you spent that borrowed money on is irrelevant.

What I am most curious about is what car "will be potentially available" in a month that has a driver's seat in the "rotational center of the car." Is he talking about a McLaren?

BonesOfTheMoon,

He talked about the Electra Mechanica Solo in another post?

Evia,
@Evia@lemmy.world avatar

That’s not the car I’d recommend for tall people…

Red_October,

That only matters to people for whom the laws of reality matter, but he’s not a people, he’s an individual, and so reality doesn’t apply.

Evia,
@Evia@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, my mistake. I made the error of forgetting that the individual is a wack job

owenfromcanada,
@owenfromcanada@lemmy.world avatar
dynamojoe,

I’m thankful I don’t have any of these people in my life. They sound insufferable.

dustyData,

I want this person to draw me exactly what this car with a seat in its rotational center looks like.

Montagge,
Montagge avatar
Blue_Morpho,
Maalus,

Still better than flying!

SuperSpruce,

A motorcycle fits the criteria, although it isn’t exactly a car.

CADmonkey,

That was my first thought too.

BradleyUffner,
walter_wiggles,

Yesss, this is why Flat Earthers are so stupid. Earth is clearly a cube, duh!

Mnem667,

I see Time Cube, I upvote.

univers3man,

Love me some time cube. See also: TempleOS.

Kecessa,

McLaren F1 would be an example I guess? Don’t know why they can’t just say “central seating position”…

mateomaui,

These people are such morons.

Pandantic,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

Where does all this come from, the idea that if you decide to be “sovereign” then you don’t have to play by the rules? Is there a legal basis or are the just delusional?

CobblerScholar,

It’s delusion but a historically motivated one. It’s a combination of leftover resentment from the Reconstruction, proxy war fuckery and serious oversteps by the government in forms such as Ruby Ridge and Waco. The sparknotes of it is just people who wanted to do what they wanted to without consequences using big words that mean nothing and 30 year old mistakes by the federal government to justify things as small as vehicle registration and speeding tickets or as large as mass firearms hoarding and human trafficking

Railing5132,

I don’t know about “oversteps”… Screwups most definitely. Koresh was raping young women and there were valid search warrants; it became a thing because the DoJ royally fucked up the execution of those warrants and let it get out of control. Randy weaver had a bench warrant for failure to appear on a federal firearms charge. Again, as he was in the process of being served, someone (ATF agent Art Roderick) shot their dog when it ran at him, kicking off the escalation of violence that made the routine process serving into a tragedy.

It was not “overreach”. It was a fuck up.

Pandantic,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

That’s some knowledge there. ATF fan, government fuck up fan, or history buff? 😁

Railing5132,

History buff.

Dkarma,

Not op but this is standard “lore” in every gun circle/ gun club / gun show /fb group

Railing5132,

Not sure what part or to whom is being ascribed to as gun fanatic/facebook-hellscape, but for my part, I don’t side with either of those camps.

CobblerScholar,

You’re right. It’s been a minute since I’ve refreshed my memory on the Branch Davidians, forgot how bad it was

Seleni,

They’re delusional and the legal basis is all in their heads. When you declare that a traffic court is only subject to navy doctrine because the flag in the room has fringe, you’ve gone off the deep end.

some_guy,

The frustrating bit is that they sometimes get out of shit because judges don’t want the aggravation. This reinforces their deluded behavior.

Pandantic,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

So, it is essentially the person saying, “I’m a sovereign citizen, you can’t do anything to me” while holding their ears until someone lets them get away with it?

some_guy,

More like being a pain in the ass in court, from what I’ve seen. Stupid objections, dubious motions, someone else can likely sum it up better than I can. I hate these clowns.

mateomaui,

I’m pretty sure it was born from trying to justify tax evasion. In the US at least.

nova_ad_vitum,

There is a small kernel of interesting political philosophy at the core of this insanity. The idea that you are born into a system which you didn’t opt in to, and cannot opt out of. If you’re born in the US (or most places with a functional government), you’re born subject to several layers of government that you didn’t agree to, each of whom has all the typical government powers like a monopoly on the legitimate application of violence, and coercive taxation. You have no choice in any of that. You could try to leave, but you’ll just be subject to some other government. There’s no truly “free” land at this point in history (there is, just not the land anyone wants). This is, at the very least, interesting to consider.

The sovereign citizen mindset goes from that, straight to “I can just decide to opt out”. Usually the even more hypocritical “I can use the parts of society I want to use, but opt out of the others”. The fact is that their vision is ultimately untenable and there are good reasons why things are the way there are. There are too many humans in the areas of the earth where people actually want to live to let everything be a free-for-all. The cost and compromise of living in any valuable area this day in age is that you’re subject (without your express consent) to the government that controls the land where you were born.

The sovereign citizen just can’t handle any of this and rejects all or parts of it at their convenience. They think there are magic words they can say to a cop to make the law not apply, and all manner of other insanity.

Pandantic,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

Thank you, that was very through explanation. I suppose your downvoter has a problem with your both-sidedness?

evasive_chimpanzee,

They think there are magic words they can say to a cop to make the law not apply

I think a big part of it is that everyone has at some point in their life been screwed over by the fine print legalese. If the magic words can hurt you, surely they can help you, too.

They dont realize that it’s never been about the actual fine print, it’s been about who has power.

PatFussy,

You can live in international waters completely. 100 miles out and you can go full cannibal as much as you want.

Neato,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

Even if it were recognized, Sovereign Citizens would not be American citizens. Therefore they are illegal immigrants and would be deported (I dunno, to the ocean?) They have this whole thing about laws don’t apply to them and shit. Welp if that’s true what stops the US government from just abusing you? Or even just a gang of folks with guns shaking you down?

Sovereign cities are idiots and cheats who are trying to “game” the system by being petty criminals.

Protoknuckles,

I mean, that’s the definition of outlaw. You were no longer under the protection of the law.

dustyData,

trying to “game” the system by being petty criminals

and at the same being way too stupid to actually cheat because they don’t actually understand the game to begin with.

athos77,

I read an article on it once and it seems to be based on not understanding the nuances of the US regulatory and legal systems. Like, a corporation can manipulate the tax system so they don't owe any taxes, and corporations are people, so they decide people can declare themselves to be corporations and not pay taxes.

Someone in one state goes to bankruptcy court with a decent lawyer, a lot of preparation, and a very specific set of circumstances and gets their debt written off; they go to bankruptcy court in their own state, representing themselves, no work done, and just declare themselves free of debt. When it doesn't work, instead of finding and confronting the actual reason (which may take work, or may not give them the answer they want), they look for other things to fix. Oh, someone it worked for used this exact phrase, let's use that - it didn't work, but we didn't capitalize some things, so let's Capitalize Random Words for extra Emphasis.

There are also fraudsters who prey on these people, telling them they'll sell them a complete bankruptcy kit for only $200, absolutely guaranteed to get them out of debt. Even better, here, buy this other more expensive kit and you can assign your existing debt tow corporation of your choosing! Or buy this even more expensive kit and you can become a corporation and you'll never owe money again! Or hey, file this set of papers and you'll be given the money the government has been holding onto for you! (That one seems to be some mix of the unclaimed funds database and rich kids aging into their trust money.)

It's interesting in a way, because they know enough to understand that the social contract is broken, and that rich people and corporations aren't subject to the same repressive tax structure as the rest of us. But it's also sad, because they're in too deep to realize that helplessly flailing against a system that was never meant to represent them fairly. And it's annoying af if you ever have to deal with them, because they're usually highly stressed and don't understand why their Magic Words aren't Working like they Should, so they keep re-iterating variations of the danger thing over and over.

archomrade,

It’s interesting in a way, because they know enough to understand that the social contract is broken, and that rich people and corporations aren’t subject to the same repressive tax structure as the rest of us

This is what fascinates and frustrates me, too. They have so much faith that the system and governing structure was designed by -almost deified- freedom profits, that it blinds them to the failure they are so clearly experiencing.

If they could see through the national-exceptionalist brainwashing they’ve been exposed to, they’d almost be socialists.

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