Should Lemmy buy ads on Reddit?

User count has plateaued at about 420K

Active user count rose significantly between 2/24 37K to 3/24 51K

Hopefully users who signed up last year are coming back to use their accounts.

Maybe because they’re tired of ads on reddit?

Should we put together a collection and and buy an ad campaign on Reddit?

I can see it now:

“Ads suck. We’re ad-free forever. Join Lemmy.”

and

“He’ll never get us. Join Lemmy.” or “Don’t let him get you. Join Lemmy”

MrFunnyMoustache,

Personally, I would never give Reddit a single penny. Their garbage CEO does plenty to get people to leave and I am sure it will keep like that.

fishos,
@fishos@lemmy.world avatar

“are you sick of ads? Heres an ad!” Doesn’t have the same impact you think it does.

Also, food for thought: you really want to invite the kind of people who can’t use adblockers here? Barriers to entry aren’t necessarily a bad thing. You want quality, not quantity. More people isn’t necessarily better. And the people who stuck by reddit and spez through all of that?

lil,
@lil@lemy.lol avatar

Have you used Lemmy before June 2023? I’ve been using it since late 2022 and it wasn’t fun

fishos,
@fishos@lemmy.world avatar

And you think that the people who already saw entire subreddits shutdown in protest, with Lemmy plastered all over the place as an alternative, who decided to stay after all the content creators left, THOSE PEOPLE, are the ones you want to now court over?

Again, quality vs quantity.

We already gained the quality contributors from reddit. Advertising now is just drawing from the bottom of the barrel.

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

testify!

Alsephina,

Most people on reddit don’t even know about Lemmy lol. I’m sure a large chunk of users, particularly on lefty subs and programming ones, would love to check it out.

Ads definitely aren’t the way to go though since you’d be giving reddit money. Perhaps setting something up with mods of said subreddits?

fishos,
@fishos@lemmy.world avatar

Lmfao. Lemmy was PLASTERED on the front page. It was on r/place along with “FUCK SPEZ”. If you missed it, you’re just not even looking. And if you’re not even looking and don’t care and think reddit is just wonderful, again, do we really want you?

And seriously, with Lemmy being FILLED with “dae Linux?” and “communism good” posts and programming humor hitting my front page HOURLY, you’re honestly trying to tell me “the programmers and lefties don’t know about this place”? Seriously?!?!

Alsephina,

Lemmy was PLASTERED on the front page. It was on r/place along with “FUCK SPEZ”.

Most reddit users aren’t on there everyday to see those. If you were talking about Lemmy on reddit for a month or two after things calmed down you’d see barely anyone there still know about this place.

Jaytreeman,

Most reddit users are bots.
Most human reddit users are lurkers.

What's the ratio of active to lurker user on fediverse users?

zabadoh, (edited )

You’d be surprised.

I have a RL friend who’s on Reddit all the time, and he didn’t even hear about the shutdown, much less /r/place, or anything like lemmy. I’ve been trying to sell it to him…

Re: The “We’re elite” becomes “We’re bored talking among the same old people” or “We’re burned out”, leading to users leaving and formerly thriving communities dying.

I’ve been around long enough to see this happen on multiple forums.

fishos,
@fishos@lemmy.world avatar

And if your friend isn’t convinced by you and somehow missed the months long protest, destruction of third party apps, and mass exodus, honestly they should stay in reddit. We don’t need another Facebook.

Plus, have you considered that Lemmy isnt singularly owned? You literally can’t say ANY of what you want to say in your ads. “We don’t have ads”. Really? You can assure me that no single instance has ads? Which instance are you even going to link to? Your own? What makes that one special? What happens when you advertise for “Lemmy” and people find the intolerant instances and assume that’s all of the fediverse? What about other offshoots like kbin and mastodon? Not gonna advertise for them? And why should I trust you with money in the first place? For all I know it’s just a scam to collect money and run. What happens when someone else pops up claiming that their donation campaign is the real one and yours is fake? Literally anyone can spin up an instance and claim to be “doing it for Lemmy!”

Yeah, hard hard hard no

pruwybn,
@pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

“Ads suck, and Reddit sucks. So we paid Reddit to show you an ad.”

Sam_Bass,

Up to you. But i wouldnt waste the time or money unless you want your site’s iq to fall at an accelerated rate

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

No.

Fuck reddit, lmao

AceFuzzLord,

I wouldn’t put it passed r*ddit to accept the transaction then only push them to some group that makes them look bad so if that group leaves they can claim they successfully cleaned up their platform.

InternetUser2012,

Might as well, the bots, trolls and nazi’s are here now anyways.

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Give them nothing, take everything.

newtraditionalists,

No

eran_morad,

Nah, fuck that. This place is already too much like reddit.

danhab99,
@danhab99@programming.dev avatar

It will be like reddit for a bit, then new instances will spin up and we’ll still have the choice the fedeiverse offers

guts,

I think just trying to gather any redditor is a bad idea, there are really bad twisted redditors.

Daxtron2,

Lemmy(software) shouldn’t buy ads but I don’t think there’s any reason an individual instance shouldn’t buy ads if they choose to. Whether or not that will bring users that are worth having, is a different story entirely.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

Besides the reasons already mentioned by others here: not all users are the same, and we’re better off if some of them remain in Reddit. And yet this sort of advertisement is bound to attract people who are at the very least completely clueless (otherwise they wouldn’t be seeing ads), if not worse.

Instead I think that a better approach is to simply use the platform. Create posts, insightful comments, use the voting buttons. Also, discourage people from derailing non-political threads with political content.

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

I don't want users who come over due to ads.

Corgana,
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

I actually think users who click ads are probably the ones who most need to learn about the alternatives!

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

yeah good for them but not for me.

Corgana,
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

lol fair. Whats good for me is more people educated on the benefits of open source!

NuraShiny,

No. You don’t want people’s first exposure to the fediverse to be something annoying.

Also, anyone with a modicum of understanding is already blocking ads. Do we really want the dregs of the internet that don’t do so?

Diplomjodler3,

Fight enshittification through enshittification? Not really a good idea, if you ask me.

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