flashgnash,

Spears are way harder to make a cool spectacle in fantasy though

Kinda reminds me of that scene in Indiana Jones where the guy is doing a load of flashy movements with his sword and he just gets shot in the face

SocialMediaRefugee,

You need to arm 100 guys? 100 spears is a lot cheaper and easier to train than 100 swords.

Track_Shovel,
norgur,
@norgur@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Even for all who had swords, their primary assault weapon was usually some form of pointy murder stick, usually handheld and horse-propelled

Tankton,

The sword is the pistol of ancient times whereas the sprear is the assault rifle.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

It was only folded so many times because the ore on Honshu is pretty low grade and had to have the carbon worked out of it more than European steel.

Track_Shovel,

Wait, you mean it’s not because it gives me the ability to part steel plate in a single slash?

misterundercoat,

Wow you must be a novice if you still need to slash. A true bushido master can cut steel without unsheathing the blade.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

You only get that when you fold it 69 times.

DmMacniel,

Nice

abcd,

Nice

Raxiel,

Only if you don’t look at it afterwards

Sigh_Bafanada,

As I understand it, it wasn’t to work the carbon out of it, but instead to simply evenly spread the impurities throughout the whole sword, so there weren’t any specific points of weakness

doctorcrimson,

Obligatory “It wasn’t folded 1000 times, it was folded 11 times giving it more than a thousand folds.” Fun fact, the older traditional Japanese forges were basically assembled from mud found right there on the rivers where they found their low grade iron, and this process was kept alive by spiritualism and tradition conservatives, so it’s honestly a miracle they assembled anything long and sharp at all. Most of the iron in Japan is considered low grade Pyrite at only 46% iron, while other places in the world had access to Magnetite with up to 72% iron before any refining.

yaminoEXE,

Chinese Soldiers: “What if we put a sword on a stick and call it a day?”

Szwajcer,

Present in very many cultures as well. Be it called yari, ji, iklwa or sarissa they are all long pokey sticks.

Jumi,

Sharpening a stick regardless of length is probably one of the easiest ways to get a weapon

empireOfLove, (edited )

This just in- being able to hurt your enemy from farther away than they can hurt you conveys a large tactical advantage. More at 11.

workerONE,

I think a shield and sword together are better than a spear youtu.be/uLLv8E2pWdk?si=vXiyUTTnSbIq-vC8

lud,

Wait until you hear about Spears with shields.

RaivoKulli,

Were they very common?

lud,

Ancient Greek and Rome used them quite a lot, as I know.

IHaveTwoCows,

In a related story, artillery always beats infantry, hence David and Goliath. More at 11

bi_tux,
@bi_tux@lemmy.world avatar

What about halberts?

misterundercoat,

That dude from the Office?

TomAwsm,

Identity theft is not a joke, Jim!

andthenthreemore,
@andthenthreemore@startrek.website avatar

It’s because people want to imagine themselves as a hero, engaging in one on one combat. A knight or samurai.

They don’t want to imagine themselves as a barely trained serf in a block with 30 other people holding 3m long pikes trying not to shit yourself as arrows start to rain down.

LemmysMum,

Shit, even in one on one martial combat, give me range and I’ll take it. Knife < Sword < Spear < Bow

deeznutz,

Knife < sword < spear < bow < trebuchet

Squirrel,
@Squirrel@thelemmy.club avatar

The most elegant weapon.

cows_are_underrated,

Knife < sword < spear < bow < crossbow < trebuchet

FooBarrington,

Knife < sword < spear < bow < crossbow < trebuchet < arbalists thrown by trebuchets

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

Knife < sword < spear < bow < crossbow < trebuchet < arbalists thrown by trebuchets < napalm thrown by trebuchets

tdawg,

Just don’t miss with the crossbow…

blackluster117,
@blackluster117@possumpat.io avatar

Knife < sword < spear < bow < crossbow < WA 2000 < trebuchet

Umbrias,

By the time of 3m pikes most infantry would be receiving pretty decent training.

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

It isn’t folded 1000 times, only about 10 times.

GorgeousWalrus,

In fairness, this would give you 1024 layers ;)

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

That’s the point. The number of layers is over 1000.

Track_Shovel,

Sir, your fedora is showing

But really, its a sword not noodles (which are folded when made by hand)

SkyezOpen,

Superior Japanese noodles, folded over 1000 times.

IHaveTwoCows,

I have been amazed to learn how many Asian noodles there really are, and how different they are.

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

The reason I know this is because I’m watching this channel: youtube.com/

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

KANCHOOO

Track_Shovel,

DONG CHIM!

rockerface,

Long stick > any other melee weapon

dingus,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Gotta have that reach.

Narrrz,

the bow and arrow is just a logical extension of mankind's desire to poke each other at ever longer range.

rockerface,

The natural wish to poke but not get poked back

TimeSquirrel,
TimeSquirrel avatar

rock->spear->bow and arrow->cannon->handheld cannon->auto-repeating handheld cannon->howitzer->ICBM->Predator drone

Shurimal,

->relativistic kill vehicle.

You see it coming, omae wa mou shindeiru.

Only thing more scary would be triggering a vacuum decay event. But these tend to backfire quite spectacularly.

LemmysMum,

Orbital weapons platforms fit in there somewhere.

explodicle,

Aliens see us as the water balloon planet.

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