FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

It is always morally correct to pirate Adobe.

blind3rdeye,

Why bother? Adobe’s pdf viewer is a bloated mess. It takes up a huge amount of space and processing power, and it constantly phones-home. It isn’t something I’d want on my computer even if they were paying me to have it.

Cosmonaut_Collin, (edited )
@Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world avatar

I had adobe Photoshop pirated for a while, butsomehow it shadow updated and adobe took away my access to using Photoshop without paying for it. That was for the most recent version of Photoshop. I guess adobe found out how to stop people from cracking the .exe.

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been on the GenP “forum”. They provide a lot of good resources and it worked for me.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

There are a lot of great replacements for Adobe programs. If you're going to spend money, maybe try them out and then donate to the ones you like!

GIMP or Kita for video editing are solid, DaVinci Resolve is an excellent video editor, and now browsers like Firefox can edit PDFs! Adobe should get bent with their insane fees.

Cosmonaut_Collin,
@Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world avatar

I use and love gimp, but Photoshop does have great selection tools for easily removing backgrounds and objects. I can manually do it on gimp, but making the process easier is always nice.

fishos,
@fishos@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve found the free editors, including Firefoxs, will often treat an Adobe/AutoCad made PDF as a flat single image. Everything has been merged together. Adobe was the only thing that would let me still treat every line and box and text as individual.

Any suggestions?

slampisko,

*image editing (instead of the first instance of “video editing”), and you probably meant Krita not Kita

deweydecibel, (edited )

Photoshop alternatives have been making some headway lately:

First, the one everyone knows, GIMP. And yes, it’s a steep learning curve, and yes, it’s incredibly frustrating. But it’s feature rich and (last I checked) the most comparable to Photoshop in what it can do. If you’re patient and willing to learn it, it can become a permanent FOSS replacement for you. If you use Photoshop a lot, I’d say this is very much worth the effort.

There’s also PhotoGIMP which is an addon that revamps the GIMP interface to make it more user friendly for people that only know Photoshop. Think of it like a translator.

Other options are Photopea: browser based, but is useful for the basic stuff.

Darktable: don’t know much about it, seems like it might be more of a Lightroom alternative, but I’ve heard good things.

And there’s the rising star Krita: it was mostly for artists but they’re branching out into more photography-based features lately. It’s pretty robust.

There’s also Affinity Photo 2, which is a true Photoshop alternative in that it’s paid software, but it’s a one time payment for a permanent license, like Photoshop used to be.

Churbleyimyam,

I think GIMP is fantastic but when I bring it up I always get comments from people saying the UI “sucks”, “makes no sense”, is “backwards” etc. But they never say why. Is it the menu layout or something? I’m genuinely curious. I used Photoshop for many, many years before learning GIMP and I did find it confusing to begin with but it’s a different piece of software. I had to learn Photoshop when I started using that too.

deweydecibel,

You answered your own question. That learning curve, that confusion, you got over it because you’re likely more technically minded and appreciate that new software requires learning new skills. Other people find that more frustrating than you and cannot get over it. This is especially true for people that don’t use photo editing software all the time

And to be fair to them, GIMP deliberately tries to differentiate itself from Photoshop. It is not at all concerned with helping people make that transition. Some people will make it, some people won’t.

tigerjerusalem,

I hate Gimp with passion not only because it has a clunky interface that never got better, but because it’s unreliable with big files. I lost many hours of work when trying to do the incredibly complex act of choosing a different font, only to see it crash and burn and lose all the changes.

Cosmonaut_Collin,
@Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world avatar

I really like photogimp.Although I have been using standard gimp for so long I get a little confused on the ui here and there (I’m terrible at remembering keyboard shortcuts.) The biggest upside to Photoshop is that the tools really are top of the line and work more efficiently than gimp’s tools.

codeddji,

Affinity just got bought by Canava. 1 time purchase license for now. But we will have to see !!!

deweydecibel,

Shit, really? I suppose that was inevitable but God damn it.

Sar,

Yeah, that purchase worries the hell outta me tbh.

Been using Affinity Designer and Photo for years, and happily paid for version 1 and the upgrade to version 2.

Now, I’m worried they’ll go for a new sub-based tier and limit features to the sub-version over the perpetual license, or hold features back for a version or two of the perpetual license version.

Or the amount of AI-related bullshit they’ll stuff the apps full of now, that will require a separate payment model for generation of images or fill-ins.

Eurgh.

art,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

Alternative Take: There’s some pretty damn good alternative software. Nothing is a drop in 1:1 replacement, but damn good options. You can easily edit a PDF with LibreOffice.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

libreoffice suite got me through university!

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Just so yall know, Firefox added a pdf editor.

brbposting,

Was glad to see it. It’s a very basic start.

Katana314,

Even Edge is a pretty good Windows default for viewing and editing PDFs.

melpomenesclevage,

So edge is the better app!

cymbal_king,

Firefox just added PDF editing to the native browser!

wonderfulvoltaire,
@wonderfulvoltaire@lemmy.world avatar

Let’s get this bread

4vgj0e,

To all the windows users out there, just use Okular its free and available in the Microsoft Store. its a KDE application and still better than Adobe imo.

Discover7343,

I love Okular on my Linux (EndeavourOS with KDE Plasma 6). Wasn’t aware Okular was available on PC. Thanks for the info.

Blackmist,

PDF is not a format designed for editing. It’s an export format designed to be a middle ground between a word processor and a printer.

You can bastardise extra layers onto it, but that’s about it.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

But sometimes you need to edit it. Checking boxes. Signing things. Changing numbers so you can lie about things.

postmateDumbass,

/c/yesyesyesno

melpomenesclevage,

What’s wrong with forgery?

VeganCheesecake,

I mean, you can pretty much completely edit a pdf with Acrobat. Delete elements, move them around, edit text. It may not be designed for it, but it’s very much possible.

I gotta admit I’ve done it a few times because I was to lazy to recreate old, lost templates, so instead I just copied the pdf and edited it with new text and data.

nexguy,
@nexguy@lemmy.world avatar

It was designed for that but not really marketed to be used that way so it’s thought of as a lockable universally supported document format.

TheFriar,

Not to be that guy, but there are plenty of free pdf editors that you can download

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

If you have the latest Firefox, it’s included now.

whereisk,

And it’s pretty good - you can add text and images but you can’t yet move pages around or manipulate existing elements.

sheridan,
@sheridan@lemmy.world avatar

Also, macOS has some built in PDF editing tools in Preview. You can add text, signatures, draw lines and shapes, highlight, add notes, and split or combine PDFs.

Got_Bent,

Money aside, Adobe tools for PDF have gotten worse. Ten years ago Adobe was much easier and robust.

All my opinion, of course.

Fuck_u_spez_,

It’s not just your opinion when it’s objectively true.

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

There is at least 1 issue a day with Adobe at my office. Its not 100% adobe’s fault but I side-eye those millions of services they install for their app suite.

Viking_Hippie,

Haven’t used any Adobe programs for over a decade but I believe you. Almost everything’s getting worse, smaller (except when that’s desirable), less robust and more error prone while simultaneously getting much more expensive.

Shrinkshittififlation is the new bullshit norm.

Sabin10,

I definitely agree that it’s getting harder to use. Working in print, I use it every day and every time they update the ui they find ways to slow down my work flow. My favourite is when they change or even remove keyboard shotcuts that have worked forever or hide certain tools because they’ve added a newer, worse way to do the same thing.

Buffaloaf,

Public service announcement: Open a PDF using Word and you can edit it, though sometimes the formatting gets weird.

rockSlayer,

The latest update from Firefox also lets you edit PDFs in the browser, and without any formatting weirdness

Potatos_are_not_friends,

What? That’s amazing!

FellowEnt,

Did you know you can unzip PowerPoint files?

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Inkscape, which is free and open source, does a very competent job of taking part .pdfs and allowing you to modify them these days.

Damage,

LibreOffice draw is good too

benjihm,

I still think it’s crazy that, as a researcher who has to read a lot of PDFs, I can barely find any usable alternatives to Acrobat that have basic annotation features. This is especially true for Android platforms, where I do most of my reading.

atro_city,

opens issue on opensource bugtracker demanding propietary features for free

"I can't believe the devs haven't implemented this yet!"

doesn't donate a cent

Kyouki,

pdf24 is very neat.

fin,

You can now edit PDFs on Firefox

Reygle,
@Reygle@lemmy.world avatar

Or a handful of other, open source applications

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

Use GIMP or LibreOffice Draw

CheesyFox,

Inkscape

Echo5,

+1 for LibreOffice. I use PDFGear for my primary now though

ThrowawayPermanente,

Fuck PDF’s, all my homies hate PDF’s

OsrsNeedsF2P,

They’re not inheritly bad. The idea is no matter what you open the PDF with, it will always look the same.

That doesn’t explain why they’re so annoying to edit, though

Blueteamsecguy,

Because they weren’t designed to be edited, but somehow here we are

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