Jimmy Fallon apologises to Tonight Show staff after toxic workplace allegations - reports

Earlier on Thursday, Rolling Stone published allegations from two current and 14 former employees, including production crew and writers, who requested anonymity out of fear of retaliation. Rolling Stone claimed they had approached an additional 80 current and former employees, but “not a single one agreed to speak on the record or had positive things to say about working on the Tonight Show”.

According to Rolling Stone’s report, multiple sources alleged Fallon had a history of “outbursts” and lashing out at staff when under pressure; that previous senior staff on the show had bullied and belittled them; and that guests’ dressing rooms were commonly known as “cry rooms”, where employees could go let out their stress.

Nine showrunners have worked on the Tonight Show since Fallon took over from Jay Leno in 2014; a much faster turnover than comparable late night shows like Late Night with Seth Meyers and The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

verysoft,

Guy is fake af, never understood the appeal of him or his show.

GONADS125,

Absolutely… And his obnoxious fake laughs are straight up nauseating…

rustyfish,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Fallon is one of the least funny people on the planet. I am not joking. His shit keeps getting brought up on my YouTube feed and it is just utter crap.

The only time I had to laugh at something he was involved in, was when he made a crossover with John Oliver. Fallon obviously tried to advertise for Amazons Alexa, when Oliver suddenly asked Alexa about the working conditions in Amazon Warehouses. Fallon immediately shit himself.

rouxdoo,
@rouxdoo@lemmy.world avatar

My only concern about all of this is that Fallon’s Ben and Jerry’s ice cream flavor is the best one! I can also groove on Colbert’s but Fallon’s is the best. Don’t cancel Fallon’s ice cream please!

Geriatrickid,

What’s in the Fallon flavor?

KevonLooney,

“The Tonight Dough”. It’s a good cookie dough flavor.

It’s not a “Jimmy Fallon” flavor. They can just take him off the label.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

They can stick Steven Colbert on it… Again!

One for the old Colbert, and another for the current one

Deelala0516,

Chocolate chip cookie dough, peanut butter cookie dough, Oreo cookie pieces, chocolate ice cream, and caramel swirl I think. It’s unbelievably fantastic.

Geriatrickid,

Yeah I’ve got to try it now

pwalshj,

He cancelled a Norm MacDonald appearance on his show for saying that he put Rosanne Barr and Louie C.K. in touch because of their shared experience. Like, a therapy thing. Jimmy claimed that a female his staff cried and locked herself in an office b/c of that. At least we know what room it was and what they were really crying about.

reddig33,

It’s suspicious that this has gone on for years, but the story is only being published now. Seems to have been common knowledge in Hollywood. Is it contract negotiation time? Did Fallon finally piss of the wrong person? Does NBC have someone already in mind to replace him?

postmateDumbass,

Maybe the alcohol rumors are true and getting to be more of an issue?

BedInspector,

I feel vindicated for strongly disliking him since SNL. Deuche bag ruined every single skit he was in. Absolute amateur laughing in every skit. Every time.

SCB,

That was the best thing about SNL at the time, to me, lol

bobman,

If it’s any consolation, snl was always shit for dumbasses.

xman664,

Ohhhh hot take… SATAN!

some_guy,

There was a time when it was funny. That was before he was there.

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altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Mad TV was where the real funny was at

SCB,

When I was in college, there would be these marathons of MAD TV, and we’d play a drinking game to it. Every time there was a joke that was supposed to be funny, and wasn’t, you’d take a drink

We’d get shit faced man. Mad TV was so terrible lol

Later we did it to Key and Peele too, which was great because K&P skits are funny for the first 90 seconds or so and then they just bludgeon the joke into the fucking ground

Good times.

lapbar,

This is hilarious if you’ve ever worked in Hollywood: An NBC spokesperson told the magazine: “As in any workplace, we have had employees raise issues; those have been investigated and action has been taken where appropriate. As is always the case, we encourage employees who feel they have experienced or observed behaviour inconsistent with our policies to report their concerns so that we may address them accordingly.”

Saneless,

And we always tell them, you can be honest. Don’t worry, we won’t “retaliate”

But why the quotes?

Oh, just for emphasis that we absolutely will “not retaliate or fire you immediately and spread rumors about you”

dogslayeggs,

report their concerns so that we may address them accordingly

Which means they will fire that person and make sure they never work in the industry again. That sounds like a cliche you hear in movies, but if you know people who work in Hollywood you know that it’s a real thing.

Cjwii,

Not trying to defend Jimmy Fallon, but is there a way to do a nightly television show for years on end that’s healthy?

The constant demand to be fresh, funny, topical, appeal to advertisers, network execs and audience members. It’s fucking insane how anyone can do it at all.

I’d imagine it takes it’s toll on even the most level headed good people.

MiltownClowns,

Most of the story might be construed as nothing but the show runner turn over raised red flags for me. Conan had the same show runner, Jeff Ross, for decades. Fallon can’t keep a show runner for a year! On the Tonight Show! One of the most coveted show runner positions still left in Television. The fact that the most powerful people aside from fallon keep quietly leaving the show means to me that there is something rotten that they are all fleeing and keeping quite to protect their careers.

pwalshj,

Conan seems to be well-regarded.

_haha_oh_wow_,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not surprised, never could stand that guy.

Saneless,

I don’t hate him. Don’t like him. I never found him as funny as Jimmy Fallon did either

_haha_oh_wow_,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

Who could?

Psythik,

I always knew something was off about his fakeass laugh…

JustAManOnAToilet,

Give Craig Ferguson his time slot.

tider06,

I’d start watching non-streaming TV again if Ferguson came back.

SpaceCowboy,
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I think he’s said he never wanted the earlier time slot because the network would be too involved with the show.

“Tonight Show with Craig Ferguson” would just be like what Tonight Show has been for many decades with just the few flourishes here and there that the network would allow Ferguson to do.

With the 12:30 slot he could do whatever he wanted, the network didn’t care. Which is what made his show the best talk show of all time.

LaunchesKayaks,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

I miss Craig

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t even seen him since he left his show. What is he even doing now? Just enjoying retirement? I mean he deserves it, but I miss him too.

LaunchesKayaks,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

I have no idea. He did like one Netflix comedy special after leaving the show but that was so long ago.

spirinolas,

Conan was awesome and I thought it couldn’t get any better. But then came Craig and he was in a league of his own. He reinvented the genre and nobody was able to copy him since.

It was a privilege to have lived through and watch both of them in their prime.

Yepthatsme,

Jimmy Fallon? Isn’t that the failed Andy Samburg?

JustZ, (edited )

No? Fallon is like one of the most successful comedians alive today. That a bunch of internet forum users don’t find him funny does not change the facts that the dude is widely popular.

Personally he’s not my favorite comic but he’s in the club of comedy legends. Plus, Andy Samberg is the failed Andy Samberg.

lapbar,

I want to downvote you because I like Samburg but “Andy Samburg is the failed Andy Samburg” made me laugh. :(

JustZ,

Haha. Glad you liked that.

victron,

Can’t someone spell his last name correctly?

hddsx,

That sucks. I love the music based challenges from Fallon as opposed to Kimmel

cantstopthesignal,

Jimmy Fallon is a robot designed to laugh at people’s jokes no matter how unfunny they are.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Jimmy Fallon was a “safe” bet by NBC execs during the Leno/Conan arguments.

It’s a stupid bet.

Hazdaz,

Whether this is a “hit piece” or not, I have never found Fallon funny in the slightest bit and absolutely hate the entire late night talk show format. It’s just sucking up to celebrities for 2 goddamn hours. Utterly fake conversations with fake people trying to plug their latest projects. Every thing about it annoys the fuck out of me.

Taleya,

Idk i laughed pretty hard when mamoa smacked the everloving shit out of him.

agent_flounder,

I’m thinking this could be a successful new format

CrabAndBroom,

I’m the same, except when Conan does it. But also Conan could read out my tax returns and it’d be hilarious.

Hazdaz,

Conan has his moments, but I much rather see him write/act in skits about current events than sucking up to celebrities. Peak Conan was when he was still fresh from being a writer for The Simpsons, and I seem to find him less and less funny as the years go on.

CrabAndBroom,

I’ve been really liking his podcast. He still has celebrities on, but the idea is that it’s more people he wants to talk to rather than people promoting stuff, or people he had on his show who he never got to have a proper conversation with and he’ll sit with them to a proper in-depth talk for like an hour or so. And sometimes they’ll do an episode where just a random member of the public calls in and he interviews them instead. Also one of his co-hosts is his assistant who does not respect his position as her boss at all, so that’s a good dynamic.

GONADS125,

I’d recommend giving his travel show “Conan Obrien Must Go” a shot. More just Conan being Conan and it’s great.

Hazdaz,

Wasn’t that years ago what he did when one of the networks fired him, but he couldn’t go on another network because of contractual reasons? I think might have seen some of it. Or maybe it was the build-up to it. I might give it a shot, but if there are celebrities on it, I’ll tune out. Celebrity worship makes me want to puke and no pre-written banter between a host and a celeb can hold my attention for long.

raef,

No, that was something earlier when he quit NBC when Jay Leno wanted a show again and Conan didn’t want them to change the time of the show from what Carson had. He did a live show. I can’t remember what it was called, but it was something like “banned from TV”. He was mostly looking for a way to keep taking care of his employees: as he always did, including out of his own pocket during the last, previous writer’s strike.

ChickenLadyLovesLife,

Weird, I’ve actually found him to be funnier and more witty/insightful as the years have gone on. I couldn’t stand him back in the '90s.

Saneless,

I feel like you could ask Conan to be funny after you read 2 lines from anything and he’d knock it out. Recipe. Taxes. Obituary. Jimmy Fallon’s set. Anything normally not funny at all

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Conan has admitted that he can’t turn it off.

If you see him at a restaurant, he will accidentally ignore his family to to entertain you. He mentions his wife hates it.

dogslayeggs,

I sat next to him and his wife at a restaurant about 6 years ago. Now I’m personally offended he didn’t ignore her to try to entertain me.

ChickenLadyLovesLife,

The Graham Norton show is actually pretty entertaining as late-night talk shows go. Graham seems like a good dude, the guests can actually talk to each other after pitching their bullshit, and they drink onstage so they don’t have to pound booze and drugs in the green room beforehand.

bobman,

Congratulations, you have a brain.

Fisk400,

They should have given it to Conan when they had the chance but they keep insisting on giving it to soulless narcissists like Leno and Fallon.

cmbabul,

This, Conan has always been infinitely funnier, and he still has employees that followed him from the Late Night show that seem to love working with him

dbilitated,
@dbilitated@aussie.zone avatar

so much love for Conan. I’ve only seen a few clips, I’ll have to seek him out a bit.

ok I just watched this and he’s actually great: youtu.be/FIHxrzOQtm0

NocturnalMorning,

Conan is a jackass too, except he treats people like crap on camera and people think it’s funny.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Those are comedy skits where people play exaggerated versions of themselves for your amusement.

It’s acting.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

I’ll wait to hear about all the people crying from working on Conan.

Because last I checked, Conan does seem to care about his staff. He has a history of paying people out of pocket while his shows were on hiatus.

QHC,

Almost like it’s a bit for entertainment! Being a “jackass” on camera is not at all the same thing as this story.

ImFresh3x,

I’ve never heard of anything saying Conan was inappropriate to them while working for him. He seems like one of those bosses that let’s people do there works and get a way with shit here and there.

I_Fart_Glitter,

I’ve loved Conan for decades, but a certain point the bits with him and Jordan Schlansky started to make me uncomfortable. Like yeah, he’s a weird, possibly neurodivergent guy who does odd things that are funny and Conan wanted to make a bit out of it and obviously Jordan was on board. But as it progressed Conan did seem to get a little mean at times, and when you have a national platform like that, you aren’t just being silly-mean to your quirky buddy, you’re opening the door to making it acceptable to ridicule people with autism spectrum disorder.

pwalshj,

He’s not abusing an autist. Jordan plays in to it as much as Conan plays in to being mean. Listen to Jordan on Inside Conan. It’s entertainment. Jeremy Clarkson doesn’t try to fix everything with a hammer; Steve Martin and Martin Short aren’t in jealous competition with each other; Gordon Ramsey doesn’t SHUT IT DOWN!

cmbabul,

You can’t convince me Clarkson doesn’t at least try to fix everything with a hammer at first

I_Fart_Glitter,

Yeah… that’s exactly what I said. He’s ribbing his buddy. BUT every single thing he’s making fun of in Jordan could be seen as an autistic trait. When sweet old, aw shucks Conan O’Brien has a running gag where he makes fun of autistic traits, it harms people on the spectrum.

pwalshj, (edited )

Then you should be upset with Jordan for pretending to be “on the spectrum”. *EDIT TO ADD: Conan is mocking Jordan’s stilted, self-protective camera persona.

stillwater,

Nobody has been inspired to mock autistic people because of a Jordan Schlansky bit, stop making shit up.

pwalshj,

NO! He’s being abused. www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmRouEds_2A

TheFriar,

You…think what you see on TV is…real? It’s a comedy bit.

Delusional,

Conan acts like that to get a laugh because he isn’t like that at all as a person and everyone knows he is joking. You won’t ever see Fallon or Corden be that way on camera because it’s really how they are in everyday life off camera.

TheFriar, (edited )

Exactly. It’d be painfully obvious how horrible these guys are if you got to see how their staff reacted, should Fallon or cordon ever decide to do Conan’s “remotes.”

Speaking of, even with the guy that conan was always the “hardest” on in those remotes, Jordan Schlansky, you would see him break on occasion because even he knew that they were taking part in a bit. Man, I miss conan.

Hiuhokiguess,

The Italy and Japan trips were hilarious.

TheFriar,

I go back and do a full-remotes rewatch at least once a year. They’re all fuckin gold. But my favorite is the one where he catches onto a secret email chain of employees so they can get to any free food before anyone else. That one is just so goddamn perfect

Dkarma,

Unpopular opinion: Conan SUCKS and is not funny. His personal antics are downright cringey middle school level drek.

Fisk400,

Yeah, not everyone like all types of humor. By actually having a personality and a distinct sense of humor he opens himself up to not being liked.

Unlike the charismatic black holes of Falcon and Leno that are just there and fills time until the inevitable heat death of the universe.

theragu40,

At least Leno was an ok interviewer and (at least based on his post tonight shown life) seems not to be a dick.

Fallon is SUCH a bad interviewer, it is incredibly grating.

postmateDumbass,

Leno on the Tonight Show was just a rotating parade of shills. It was devoid of any soul, community, or any emotion really.

PapaStevesy,

They did give it to Conan, then they gave it back to Jay. Like everything else wrong in my life, I blame the boomers.

xman664,

I love the single downvote… “god damn kids…” grumble, grumble

Microplasticbrain,

Fuckin boomers

victron,

Oooh yes, they did Conan sooo dirty during that clusterfuck.

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