100 drones isn’t enough to do any meaningful damage, so this is a warning shot to Israeli. Or the Iran government is doing this exercise to save face among their own people.
However is Israel doesn’t back down from attacking Iranians, Iran might be forced to go all out war with Israel.
In one battle I read on the Ukraine war, Russia sent out 1000 Iranian drones at once to destroy 5 targets. They knew most will be shot down, but if 4 or 5 drones hit the target, it will destroy the target complete. That’s how these drones were designed to be used, dirt cheap to make, but impossible to stop in swarms.
Even 200 still isn’t a lot if they aren’t coming all at once, and Israel’s defense can handle that easily. They’re designed to shoot down 100+ numbers or rockets, shells & other air borne targets going much faster than drones before they hit their target.
When we vote in a fascist takeover in November just remember that all the people who refuse to support Biden were very clear about what they wanted from him and he refused.
Iran has the right to defend itself. Israel bombed their embassy and killed civilians; don’t Biden and Netanyahu repeatedly say for years that a country has the right to respond when attacked and their civilians are killed?
One could argue that the embassy attack was Israel defending itself from the IRGC commander and generals that were supplying the Houthis and Hamas with intel and weapons.
I’m not defending the attack on the embassy, since I’ve learned about civilian casualties. I’m simply saying this is a long standing conflict. Israel didn’t just come at Iran out of nowhere.
Israel is a sovereign nation, the Houthis are not.
Under international law, the attacks of a nation are the responsibility of the attacking nation. The same is not true for independent militant groups. For example:
France arms Ukraine and Ukraine attacks Russia, Ukraine is responsible. Iran arms Houthis and Houthis attack Israel, Iran is responsible.
Yes but the reason they acted out this week rather than before is because Biden publicly announced criticisms of Israel and threatened to condition aid. You cannot ignore the context.
International law says embassies are sacrosanct. Even if there was commander and generals in there, you cannot attack first and argue self defense without a credible threat of “imminent” danger. Israel had none and has not even argued for this claim. We went over this when the US illegally assassinated Suleimani.
That’s not what you said, you said Israel could claim justification for bombing an embassy because enemies were in it. Then you made a vague comment about how long the conflict is, as if that excuses it. If that is true, then all israeli embassies are fair game because Mosaad is in them and US embassies as well since they openly have CIA officers in them.
Firing missiles into a country to blow up an embassy of another country is a “first” no matter what justification you or Israel can come up with.
The idiot brothers, Isaac and Ishmael, need to end their fucked up family blood feud and make peace. If the dumb fucke want a war, then the Saudis, IDF, and Iranians can duke it out. NATO members stay the fuck out of that hot mess.
The US is intercepting Iranian missiles headed to Israel (in addition to Israel’s own defenses). Thoughts? Should the US leave them to defend themselves? Should Biden try to use it to extract promises to stop the genocide? Should the US unconditionally support Israel against foreign attack, while separately trying to stop the genocide?
I haven’t formed an opinion myself, just wondering what other people think.
Probably wise to help shoot as much as possible down. If they manage to get all of it and the attack causes no deaths, then it doesn’t give Netanyahu much political manoeuverability to opt for retaliatory strikes. That could deescalate things a bit, hopefully.
Ideally, everyone would militarily disengage with everyone else. The situation is bad enough as it is without drawing more sides in. But I suppose if the US feels it must directly involve itself, then shooting down unmanned missiles is the least bloody way and the easiest to back out of.
In general, I think missiles are bad. I think shooting down missiles is good.
There’s the rare exception to this, where the thing the missile is aimed at is about to do something worse than the missile, and the missile has a chance at preventing great harm
This is not one of those exceptions. Missiles hitting in this case would not save anyone, they’d just increase the risk of war
All that being said, you don’t try to negotiate as missiles are literally en route to a country. That’d be extremely messed up, that’s not how you treat an ally, no matter your relationship. You’d want to shoot them down, playing up your contribution if possible. Make them not want to think about how it would’ve gone without your help. Then leverage that later
The US was believed to have been in back channel talks with Iran until Israel pulled the shit they pulled… potentially on purpose.
It is suspected that they are trying to start shit with Iran because it has a good chance to torpedo the talks… and because then the US, and possibly other European nations, will feel pressured to forget the whole Gaza thing for now and support Israel against Iran. It’s ok to keep selling them weapons when there is a real war going on.
I wonder where they are getting the money for weapons. I thought there were economic sanctions imposed on them. Or did I miss something and were they lifted?
Iran has been forging ties with countries like Russia and China. There are emerging alliances like BRICS that seek to reduce the overpowering influence of the USA and other established economies (which is quite a topic of discussion in and of itself). The result appears to be that Western sanctions are, on their own, no longer as crippling a punishment.
I’m pretty sure the sanctions don’t apply in North Korea, Russia, China, and any other “non western” country. They can still do business with them all the same.
drones are pretty cheap as far a weapons go, Iran is a pretty big country with a fair bit of economic potential all on its own, and sanctions can only do so much, especially when theyve been in place for a long time such that the target has had time to work around or adapt to them
Iran builds them. Iran has supplied Russia with a ton of them to use against Ukraine, if you’ve been following the conflict there – cheap, long-range drones are something theylve specialized in.
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