kinther, I’m following this closely and posting updates as I have them in /c/h5n1_avianflu. I believe once this gets into pigs, it will mutate to be able to infect humans easier and possibly gain H2H. When that happens… not if… be prepared to wear a mask and social distance. People will overwhelm the hospitals and the mortality rate will be higher then we believe it to be. Protect yourselves and your loved ones.
anon_8675309, Timeframe?
kinther, They aren’t testing pigs and what testing is being done on cows isn’t expansive by any means. We won’t know until people start getting sick.
umulu, We all know how well people responded to COVID…
We might be more screwed
archomrade,
Duke_Nukem_1990, More animal exploitation, more zoonotic diseases yayyy 🥰
GoofSchmoofer, We will know if we are genuinely in the darkest time line if we get another pandemic and Trump become president again. Because that was such a great combination last time /s
werefreeatlast, Someone had to find a flying monkey in China. What happened next wasn’t the immediate investigation of the species. It’s China so it probably got fried in street oil and bam new bird flu.
TIMMAY, congrats, this is both the dumbest and the most racist thing ive read on lemmy this week (which is saying something)
DragonTypeWyvern, Can’t think of a bigger self report than seeing racism on Lemmy frequently
Blahaj_Blast, At least we all learned our lessons from the last one and will definitely have no issues when it happens again. /s
DragonTypeWyvern, …
They’re not going to wear a mask for this one either, huh?
BallsandBayonets, Of course they learned a lesson! Only about a million people died in the US and the rich got over $1 trillion richer, so this time they’ll let 10 million die so the rich can get $10 trillion richer!
ivanafterall, Conspiracy theorists make the whole world regret the "birds aren't real" meme in 3, 2, 1...
kbin_space_program, (edited ) Turns out Covid was just round 1 of international pandemics from China.
Edit: yes, technically it was round 4 (SARS, bird flu, swine flu, Covid, now Bird Flu: this time its personal)
match,
kbin_space_program, What am i looking at exactly there? It cant be human pop distribution.
match, It is (though outdated)
kbin_space_program, The North America and Asia colours are confusing. I thought the 60% was North America.
Dark_Arc, What does this one have to do with China?
FlyingSquid, I don’t think that China is the only vector for a potential pandemic (MERS didn’t start in China after all), but China does have the crowded wet markets full of exotic animals trapped from all over the country in small cages, which is the good way to get a virus to make the jump to us. That may or may not have been what happened with COVID, but it is a huge risk even if it has yet to happen.
match, if you think wet markets are a good source of zoonotic viruses I have great news about factory-farms
FlyingSquid, Yes, those are also a good source. I’m not sure why you think I believe there’s only one source.
kbin_space_program, Bird flu originated in China and its ability to jump species, as well as its lethality, was well documented there too.
girlfreddy, Not according to the CDC.
The first description of avian influenza (bird flu) dates to 1878 in northern Italy, when it was described as a contagious disease of poultry associated with high mortality, referred to as “fowl plague.” At the turn of the 20th century, it was determined that “fowl plague” was caused by a virus; however, it was not until 1955 that the virus was shown to be a type A influenza virus. www.cdc.gov/flu/…/avian-timeline-background.htm
kbin_space_program, Thats a strain of bird flu.
This strain originated in China.
girlfreddy, Proof please.
kbin_space_program, https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-01036-1
Specifically:
In 1996, the influenza strain called H5N1 was first detected in birds in China.
DragonTypeWyvern, In 1996
kbin_space_program, Yes, thats when the strain thats now in US cows was detected. The article I posted says that too.
girlfreddy, The researchers concluded that there is a shift in the highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) H5 subtype’s epicentre that goes beyond Asia, where it first emerged in 1996, and indicate that the spread of the virus in wild birds is facilitating geographic and host range expansion.
The virus spread in 2005 through migratory birds coming from China to Egypt, where it was declared an epidemic in 2006. Egypt declared an epidemic in 2006, when “that voracious variant wiped out entire farms, and infected about 359 humans,” says Rabeh Al-Shishini, virologist at Egypt’s National Research Centre (NRC), and co-author of the study.
At the time, Egypt began vaccinating poultry with vaccines against that avian influenza subvariant, but it became endemic in Egypt until 2017, when poultry and wild birds were infected with another bird flu subvariant called H5N8 that further caused a global spike in 2020 and 2021.“The 2016 and 2017 outbreak in Egypt is attributable to multiple reasons, including the absence of effective vaccines against the prevailing bird flu variants,” says Al-Shishini.
The newest H5N1 strain taking over the world has evolved from, and almost entirely replaced, the H5N8 stain that emerged in Egypt in 2016. The current outbreak is caused by two subtypes; one that spread in the northern coastal regions of central Europe and then on to North America by migrating birds, and the other in the Mediterranean Sea and subsequently in Africa.
kbin_space_program, The newest H5N1 strain
girlfreddy, Yes. So the newest strain is not from China.
janNatan, But the dairy farmers have said they’re not milking sick cows! What else could they possibly do?
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