Do people just not use the YouTube subscription feed?

I consistently hear people on YouTube complain that the subscribe button doesn’t do anything for viewers, now that channel notifications are controlled by the bell. But it does do something: it puts the videos from that channel in your subscription feed, which is readily accessible on all versions of YouTube. So why do people act like it doesn’t exist? I think it’s super convenient, especially if you’re subscribed to a ton of channels and don’t want your notifications feed flooded with new videos.

Matriks404,

How else you are supposed to know when creator posts a video?

mhz,

That is how i use youtube, but now it is poisined with those crappy shorts. They are changing youtube into tiktok

twistedtxb,
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Shorts ruined the subscription feed.

You can’t really blame creators for trying to stay afloat, but fuck Google for not letting me turn off YT Short Notifications

Resand,

hideshorts.com ftw

emax_gomax,

I used to, but then I got so many subs it wasn’t really practical anymore. Now I just let the algorithm recommend new vids. Just too much great content creators, what can you do.

Gamey,

It’s not about the bell, with it Youtube also introduction the algorythm to the subscription feed and essentially made some videos not show up consistantly anymore if I am not totally wrong (it’s been a while and I was a lot younger back then)

Aux,

Your sub feed is not affected by anything, only by your subs.

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    Aux,

    Items temporarily disappear from sub page due to distributed nature of YouTube. It has too much information and too many users to work in a traditional way. This is not an “algorithm”, it’s just a synchronisation issue. It happens on all huge platforms. People frequently “disappear” from your friend list on Facebook and then reappear a couple of days later.

    YouTube added a bell to reduce synchronization issues. Bells are temporary notifications, not persistent data, so it is handled completely differently.

    dustojnikhummer,

    I have seen myself times where someones video just is not in my sub feed, but I can see it on the Youtube channel. Happened twice in the last year with Louis Rossmann for some reason?

    MrFlamey,

    Honestly I try to only use the subscription feed because the home feed is addictive. I installed the unhook addon to block as many recommendations and other algorithmic things as possible, and try to just search when I want to find a particular thing.

    However, sometimes I find myself running out of ideas and just disabling unhook and watching a few things from the home feed before reenabling it and going back to subscriptions only. I think if I also disabled ublock, youtube would be infinitely less addictive, since it would shove ads in my face constantly, and I’d soon get fed up.

    KeisukeTakatou,

    youtube feed is a toddler you’re trying to tame. even the slightest misdirection will end you up with infinite crochet videos for 2 weeks because you watched a video about the last crochet artists in cambodia

    Thorry84,

    Yes this, so much this. The worst part for me is that it includes random videos you clicked on the internet with the same weight as videos I personally selected. And since they are mainly about stuff I’m not interested in it gets even more weight.

    For example somebody posts on social media “Look at my cool new toy”. It’s a YouTube video of a guy with a brand new tractor and he’s super happy about it. I like his genuine pleasure, so I give it a thumbs up. Go to sleep and wake up the next morning and YouTube be like: “Hey there, good morning. I heard you are super into tractors at the moment, so here are a million tractor vids for you.” OK, not a big deal, just pick out the videos that aren’t about tractors and watch those. No big deal, the algorithm will figure it out and fix it right? Wrong, it pushes more and more tractor vids. The next day you somehow manage to watch a non tractor video and the doorbell rings. It’s your cute neighbor and you make smalltalk with him/her for a while. Oops big fuckup, autoplay was on and it just played 10+ tractor vids for you. Now you’re an official tractor superfan and your whole life revolves around watching tractor vids. At least, that’s what the algorithm thinks.

    I wished when I watch a video embedded on another site it would just not track that as being my interest. On my phone I had it configured to play youtube vids in the browser and not in the app, that helped a lot. But an update broke it, so now I have to delete it from my watch history anytime I open a YouTube vid anywhere.

    Same thing with instructional videos. I got me a nice new dishwasher, but how to hook it up? Cool, they included a QR code to the brands site with clear instructions and a helpful video on how to hook it up. But oops, they hosted that video on YouTube. Now the next two weeks it’s nothing but instructions on how to hook up dishwashers you don’t own. At least it fits well with all the ads you get for the dishwashers you considered buying but ultimately didn’t decide on. That’s really useful right? Yay algorithms

    fushuan,

    I usually use the “I don’t like this” button from the triple dot option panel of the recommendations and YT doesn’t fuck around. IDK, try using that?

    I mean, don’t just try to sidestep unwanted content by not watching it, but actively tell YT you dont like it form the recommendations list.

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    cyberic,
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    I ended up getting rid of looking at recommended videos entirely. I use Unhook to get rid of recommendeds.

    CurlyMoustache,

    Yeah, it is weird.

    I never watch duck videos. But if I watch 10 seconds of one duck video, YouTube is like:

    “OH YEAH, YOU LIKE DUCK VIDEOS!? HERE ARE SOME FUCKING DUCK VIDEOS!!!”

    MonkderZweite,

    Why logging in on youtube anyway? It makes it easy to track you.

    Knusper,

    Yeah, don’t tell Google, but from back before they bought YouTube, they still have code running to serve RSS feeds for each channel. So, you can have a simple, chronological subscription feed without even needing an account.

    exi,

    Because I get a non-toxic personalized YouTube feed that does not suck…

    Bideo_james,

    Would highly recommend pausing yohr watch history when you’re satisfied with the recomendations. It stops them from collecting new data based on what you watch. This doesnt affect your revomendations unless you wipe the history

    exi,

    I want it to continuously adapt to my ever changing interests. That’s one of the major features for me.

    MonkderZweite,

    Ok, if you’re using it as your everyday entertainment tool… i only use it for the odd youtube link and prefer written text over videos.

    Aux,

    Google will track you even if you don’t login.

    MonkderZweite,

    Not me.

    theKalash,

    How else can you use youtube??

    june,

    Wait…. Thats not how people use YouTube? I browse almost exclusively from my subscriptions page.

    Noodle07,

    Same, the front page is a scary place and god help your soul if you click on trending

    dustojnikhummer,

    Default front page yes. Customized with my data, no not really

    Thorry84,

    Agreed, I have some custom ad block rules that remove videos I already watched. That removes about half of the videos on the page, but it helps a lot not showing nonsense.

    Yes YouTube, that video is perfect for me, I really like the creator, I like the subject, the video is well made with a good length. That’s all of the reasons I chose to watch it yesterday, I don’t need to watch it a second time. If I did wanted to watch it for a second time, I know where to find it, you don’t have to present it to me.

    ShittyKopper,

    i have a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that youtube intentionally shittifies the frontpage if you disable your watch history as an attempt to make you turn it back on.

    SloppyPuppy,

    Really? For me the front page hits almost spot on on what I want to watch. Weird. I use subscriptions tab first and then when im done with it I move to feed to watch new stuff I might not know and almost all of them are interesting.

    fushuan,

    I swear people does not use the “I dislike this content” or whatever it’s called button from the triple dot panel.

    uhauljoe,
    @uhauljoe@lemmy.world avatar

    i’ve had the same thought as you.

    i regularly use the sub tab. i watch youtube on weekends while i clean, so usually on friday i’ll check my home page a few times throughout the day, see if there are any interesting recommendations and save them to my watch later.

    then in the evening i do one more home page scroll, then i slowly scroll my subs page and make sure i save anything that looks interesting to my watch later. then i might watch one or two videos from my WL that evening and i watch the rest (or what i can fit in) over the weekend.

    I don’t get the point of subbing to a channel if you aren’t checking your subs tab. Like…that’s why it’s there lol bc the home page is a bunch of recommendations

    eyezhenn,

    I use it consistently. I, however, do not like the shorts panel taking up a ton of space in the feed now. My subs feed shouldn’t have shorts from people I am not subscribed to, but it does.

    atkion,

    As soon as I noticed this, I immediately grabbed a userscript that removes it. It’s incredible how much screen they managed to waste with the shorts display

    theKalash,

    You can filter them out with uBlock Origin.

    Captain_Shakespeare,

    I’ve found a new reason to use the subscribed page - it shows more videos per screen than the home screen, now that YouTube on Android TV has massively increased the preview panel to an absurd degree. There’s barely any room for identifiers, just two or three video previews taking up the entire screen, like I’ve blown up a phone app on my TV. Wtf YouTube?

    NuPNuA,

    Yeah, that new redesign sucks.

    Captain_Shakespeare,

    Swapped to SmartTubeNext. Has all the expected features plus better browsing and an ‘auto-skip sponsors’ mode.

    TheBananaKing,

    I just use subscriptions as a super-like: please keep putting this channel’s videos in my feed.

    I’m generally not interested in seeing all the updates for every channel I like in one place, especially not per-artist. I just want a mix of stuff I’ll probably like in with stuff I might like, so I stand a good chance of finding something cool.

    Xathonn,
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    Honestly I rarely do. I almost exclusively use the for you page and click what I want to watch

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