bobthened, (edited )

They aren’t.

6 examples of a trans person also being a sex pest doesn’t mean that all of them are, and it certainly doesn’t mean that granting legal protection and freedom to transgender people causes women to get assaulted/harassed by them. Do you know how many examples of cis men being sexual predators we could find in just a few minutes of googling things like “pastor arrested” or “republican senator arrested”. Does that mean we should start making it illegal for people to identify as republicans in public? should we make it illegal for the clergy to get anywhere near children? Maybe we should, but you won’t see any of these “wont somebody please think of the children” types calling for either of those, even though they’re clearly bigger threats statistically.

Unhappily_Coerced,

6 examples of a trans person also being a sex pest doesn’t mean that all of them are

I agree.

But there are plenty more than the 6 covered in this video... Not regarding assaults, but regarding general sexual behavior towards minors, see public nudity at pride parades, "drag shows for kids", kids themselves featured in drag shows, etc. Bizarro world, indeed...

certainly doesn’t mean that granting legal protection and freedom to transgender people causes women to get assaulted/harassed by them.

I don't believe anyone implied that. The video implied that allowing trans people into whichever bathroom they choose to enter was considered "safe" but this doesn't constitute "legal protection and freedoms".

Trans people, in the US, have just as many "legal protections and freedoms" as any other normal person. The aspect of this discussion where the matter at hand becomes controversial is that you might think men pretending to be women should be allowed into legally protected spaces that are specifically for women, whereas anyone with a moral compass would see that this ideology is fundamentally flawed.

I don't want you to think that I am not empathetic to the complexity of the situation. I think it is very important to consider our options moving forward... I've asked this question a few times in other discussions but I'm always willing to hear a fresh take on it.

Men and women are segregated for specific reasons regarding bathrooms and locker rooms. So when we have a group of people which can freely transverse these spaces, there is reasonable concern. What needs to happen to ensure that all persons are free and comfortable in their public spaces? Should we be erecting new public facilities that cater specifically to trans people? Do we need separate spaces for both trans men and trans women? Similarly, should we also make spaces for gay persons?

stanleytweedle,

Men and women are segregated for specific reasons regarding bathrooms and locker rooms.

What specific reasons?

Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

Looks like I slipped into bizarro world. Anyone know the way back?

Unhappily_Coerced,

Sorry. This is the world we live in. I too would like to know the way back to a place where people can easily define the differences between a man and a woman.

bobthened,

People know how to tell the difference between men and women. That’s not what this is about.

stanleytweedle,

What is your ‘easy definition’ of the difference between a man and a woman?

stanleytweedle,

Did you verify any of this kook’s rant yourself or do you just believe whatever you see on youtube?

kuontom,
kuontom avatar
Unhappily_Coerced,

I can't possibly stand differing opinions. We must ignore all views which don't align with the echo chamber!

Ignorance is bliss, my friend.

stanleytweedle,

Wouldn’t it be fun to shut everyone up with proof? If you could just drop a links that proved your nonsense about this kooks ‘receipts’ everyone would be so impressed and enlightened. But- if you could you would.

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

I was going to say - waving a bit of paper in the air and speaking authoritatively does not make something true.

Unhappily_Coerced,

Surely it would be too bothersome to search for and verify these occurrences yourself. Ignorance is bliss.

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

Be my guest.

stanleytweedle,

What search terms would you suggest to verify your claims about this kook and his ‘receipts’?

Unhappily_Coerced,

Try searching the words the man in the video is saying. Seems obvious. But, oh well. You can only lead a horse to water...

stanleytweedle,

How would that help establish the veracity of his ‘receipts’? You’ve taken all this on faith without ever actually seeing the ‘receipts’ yourself?

Unhappily_Coerced,

I read the news articles, from various sources. I trust you can not only find the same articles, but do your own due diligence. It's quite sad that this simple task is seemingly so difficult for you lot.

stanleytweedle,

But you haven’t seen the ‘receipts’ yourself. Gotcha.

Unhappily_Coerced,

Yes and I trust in your ability to use online search engines too instead of ignoring what has been brought to your attention. If you refuse to see what is obvious to others, it does not make it untrue.

I hope God has blessed you in some other important way. Best wishes.

stanleytweedle,

I’m vision impaired so search results are difficult for me to comb through quickly. If you’re not just a lying liar I would appreciate it if you provided what you found that you think verified this kook’s rant.

Unhappily_Coerced,

Best of luck to you in your endeavors. I love high contrast visual themes and the "Read Aloud" text to speech add-on, helps me a heap!

stanleytweedle,

Thanks for confirming what we both already knew.

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