@VirginiaHolloway@cshentrup@futurebird No worries, it's all for the discussion. Yeah, solutions exist, but my point is, cars as a form of transportation are not the problem, but over reliance on cars is. Personally, I've been in a city with my car twice this year, I've been taking a tram or a bus otherwise, my car was used only for trips to the seaside and my parents in the countryside. Could I have used a bus or train? Yes please, if that works as it should, but that's a different topic.