tuxedocomputers, (edited )
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Linux systems and their software set benefit from getting software quite easily. Still there different ways to do so. What's you preferred flavor of installing stuff?

ronix,

@tuxedocomputers You omitted Snaps, hehe... you guessed that nobody likes them?

tuxedocomputers,
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@ronix 🤫

Snaps at least fit into Option 2, for people who really like them.

avercromxd,
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@tuxedocomputers from my personal experience deb/rpm packages work best for me and are the most stable. But flatpak especially with flathub is very convenient. It has most apps you need and works crossplatform

notecharlie,
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@tuxedocomputers "build from source" 😁

adingbatponder,
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adingbatponder,
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@tuxedocomputers I wish I understood the options. All I know is that installing stuff in Linux produces the same sensations of total dread as installing things in Windows 3.1. Apple seems to thrive due to this: I have NEVER had a SINGLE problem installing something on an Apple MacOS system...

ProfessorCode,
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@tuxedocomputers I tend to stick to whatever format that is officially supported by the app developers.

However, I would prefer if more apps are distributed as Flatpak. I find it more convenient and somewhat more secure than other methods.

Wyatt,
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@tuxedocomputers
No snaps? :blobcatanimeeyes:

JLW_the_Jobber,
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flyinggecko,
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@tuxedocomputers
I hate managing more than 1 package manager. So option 1 it is. If there is an option for adding an deb/rpm/pacman repo, I'll use it.

AngryAnt,
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@tuxedocomputers I type the application name in my terminal and if it isn't there then my nix install will fetch and run it.

The "oh, that had to be installed" way I guess :P

dranger,

@tuxedocomputers
Flatpak desperately needs cli app support. I use it for most all my apps and so far so good. Resource intensive apps run well and my only issue with it is inconsistent themeing

ademalsasa,

@tuxedocomputers Classic Packages.

BeardlyDavid,

@tuxedocomputers I used to be weary of Flatpak but it’s grown on me. Screw Snaps though, I don’t like Snaps.

guenther,

@tuxedocomputers

preferred: anything that comes from the app developers themselves, be it a custom deb repo, an app image, or a binary tarball, because that's what's properly maintained.

ok: distro repos for things that haven't changed significantly in five years

if need be: pip, cargo, npm, compile from sources using build instructions

avoid: snap, flatpak, docker and anything else that wastes gigabytes of SSD space and pulls equally large updates whenever I'm on an LTE connection.

underseamonkey,

@tuxedocomputers ./configure && make && make install 😉

tuxedocomputers,
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karlggestd,
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@tuxedocomputers There is no installation system that competes with openSUSE's 1-click (especially on Tumbleweed). The point is that it is difficult to guarantee that any software is available in rpm, which makes a system like flatpak can be very useful.

tuxedocomputers,
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@karlggestd But that 1-click just runs YaST just like apturl does for Debian land. While it sure is convenient, it still depends on option one of the poll.

karlggestd,
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@tuxedocomputers apturl uses existing repositories. 1-click adds new repositories.

tuxedocomputers,
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@karlggestd Yeah, but that's not the point. 1-click still uses RPMs from repos. It's just a different way to add them to your system.

karlggestd,
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@tuxedocomputers I did not say that 1-click doesn't use rpm. I only said it's the simplest form to install software BUT needs someone making the RPM package AND in that context flatpak can work better.

liketechnik,
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@tuxedocomputers Not sure into which category would fit :breadthink:

tuxedocomputers,
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@liketechnik That'd be the fifth poll option then, maybe. Followed by another option for the Gentooheads named "I have too much life time to spend". 😜

publicvoit,
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@tuxedocomputers @liketechnik Hehe. I get the reference.

However, as a relatively freshman in (https://www.karl-voit.at/2023/09/12/nix/) I tend to think that the initial effort in creating a NixOS setup is rather huge, yes. However, when you do have it in a more or less stable form, you'll spend much less time with updates, HW switches, ...

At least that's the impression I've got so far.

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